Best asian navy

jatt

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Upgrades are cheaper than new ships.
The orginal intention of the Indian Navy was 6 Delhis and 6 Banglores! They cut back to 3 each. :D Plus this cuts back on the targets the enemies gonna get to shoot at and requires less missile defence but still increases the fire power.
 
Does the Rajput Class destroyers pack more firepower than the Soverenemy 956EM? How about the Arleigh Burke? How would you guys rate those three (no doubt the three most powerful anti-ship ships in the world) exclusively in the area of anti-ship capability?
 

tphuang

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I'm not sure about that, only two of the Rajput class destroyers are getting Brahmos.

I think you could put 052B in there? It carries 16 YJ-83s.
 

jatt

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Does the Rajput Class destroyers pack more firepower than the Soverenemy 956EM?
8 inclined new Moskits against the 16 Barhmos? Well yes. But the Sovermney is relativily newer design. The Rajput would work better in a fleet protected by other ships SAMs.
How about the Arleigh Burke
Are you kidding? A salvo attack of 16 Barhmos could give the Aegies a run for its money but they are in complete different leagues.
I'm not sure about that, only two of the Rajput class destroyers are getting Brahmos.
It looks that way right now based on confirmed pictures but this is the InN's future plans. Plust those things has Star Radars, Barak and a small internall upgrade I thinks its safe to assume that the InN has big plans for these old buckets.
 

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jatt said:
8 inclined new Moskits against the 16 Barhmos? Well yes. But the Sovermney is relativily newer design. The Rajput would work better in a fleet protected by other ships SAMs.

Are you kidding? A salvo attack of 16 Barhmos could give the Aegies a run for its money but they are in complete different leagues.

It looks that way right now based on confirmed pictures but this is the InN's future plans. Plust those things has Star Radars, Barak and a small internall upgrade I thinks its safe to assume that the InN has big plans for these old buckets.
well, it's really not fair to compare any other DDG to AB, because AB can launch Harpoons, standards, ESSM, Tomahawk and its ASW capability is awfully good too.

As for 956EM vs Rajput, on paper 16 Brahmos beat 8 moskit. But the other part of the equation is the control system and sensors used. Whatever you want to say about Russian electronics, it did look like they made a concerted effort at modernizing the command and control of 956EM.

Looks like InN is doing what PLAN is also doing with the midlife refits for the old DDGs.
 

maddogy4645

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Personally, I think the proper way to assess navies is to judge whether they're good enough to achieve their actual objectives.

-Japan's navy is definitely able to defend its motherland, but the Q now is how will it perform if a major conflict has erupted along the disputed islands with China?

-South Korean's navy is irrelevent as no one but the North would actually attack them.

-India's navy is difficult to judge, mainly because we don't know what their objective is. If it is self defence, then why is it spending as much as it has on IMPORTED weapons, considering how poor a country it is. Interesting that the Indians are proud of how they fostered their domestic entreprenership, yet refuse to spend the majority of their military funds on domestic projects.
Why are they in such a hurry to modernize? After all, they DON"T have to fight the USN in the near future!!!

-PLAN in my opinion ranks last, simply because I doubt its ability to complete its task. My humble opinion is that because PLAN's foe is the USN, the best that it can achieve is a draw. Even if victory is possible, it's mainly due to economic and/or political response against USA rather than dirct military force. In such circumstance, the PLAN has the biggest probability of lossing against its potential enemy, compared the the 3 navies mentioned above, thus PLAN is the worst:(
 

MIGleader

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FriedRiceNSpice said:
Does the Rajput Class destroyers pack more firepower than the Soverenemy 956EM? How about the Arleigh Burke? How would you guys rate those three (no doubt the three most powerful anti-ship ships in the world) exclusively in the area of anti-ship capability?

how is an arleigh bruke a good anti-ship ship? the harpoon is a rather mediocre missle, and the standard is only a secondary anti ship missle.

the ability of brahmos against an arleigh burke is doubtful,. it would be going up against 96 standards and two phalanx. still, its pretty powerful

just because a ship has firepower doesnt mean it doesnt need stealth. aircraft radar, carrier radar, ground launced ashm radar, helicopter radar will all see it. since the rapjusts only have a so-so, at most decent, air defence ability, a concentrated air, sea, and land attack could take it out.
 

jatt

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MIGleader said:
how is an arleigh bruke a good anti-ship ship? the harpoon is a rather mediocre missle, and the standard is only a secondary anti ship missle.

the ability of brahmos against an arleigh burke is doubtful,. it would be going up against 96 standards and two phalanx. still, its pretty powerful

just because a ship has firepower doesnt mean it doesnt need stealth. aircraft radar, carrier radar, ground launced ashm radar, helicopter radar will all see it. since the rapjusts only have a so-so, at most decent, air defence ability, a concentrated air, sea, and land attack could take it out.
You realize those launchers are universal on the AB's? meaning tomahawk AShM when it goes home to get bigger guns and comes back to fight. They used to hold them and now hold LACM tomahawks.:rofl:
 

MIGleader

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yes, the vls cells can be used for tomahawks. but the anti ship tomahawk goes only .9 mach, and doesnt have a range even close to it's land attack counter part.
 

Kampfwagen

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Without a doubt, the U.S asssted JSDF Navy is one of, if not the, best in the asian theatre. It has been said before, but I feel it must be said again.
 
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