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A dumb question now: Out of the total price of a modern surface combatant displacing let's say 5000 tons, what would be the share of the hull and of the rest (by which I mean the propulsion system, electrical plant, radars, sonar(s), weapons -- fully loaded; I don't mean any helicopter(s) carried nor crew salaries I know it all depends ... but I've read somewhere the cost of a hull is pretty small nowadays (20%??) ... is it true?

Jura said:

A dumb question now: Out of the total price of a modern surface combatant displacing let's say 5000 tons, what would be the share of the hull and of the rest (by which I mean the propulsion system, electrical plant, radars, sonar(s), weapons -- fully loaded; I don't mean any helicopter(s) carried nor crew salaries I know it all depends ... but I've read somewhere the cost of a hull is pretty small nowadays (20%??) ... is it true?

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One point for sure is that physics dictates if you use the same hull design using the same material, the amount of buoyancy would be the same limiting the total amount of mass and balance that can be placed on the vessel.

Royal Australian Navy LHD Canberra Completes Sea Trials as Crew Tests Landing Craft

NUSHIP Canberra, the first of two Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) ships being built for the Australian Defence Force, returned from her final contractor sea trials before delivery to the Australian Government. The ship returned to BAE Systems Williamstown today after being away on sea trials for two weeks.

In the meantime, Canberras' new Landing Craft were tested by RAN personnel on Sydney Harbour and local waterways.

The LHD Landing Craft (LLC) are scheduled to be handed over to Canberra in the coming months. In the mean time, the Canberra teams who will be driving, crewing and maintaining the vessels are undertaking further contractor training based at HMAS Waterhen.

Designed and built by Navantia, the LCM-1E landing crafts are the same type used by the Spanish Navy. With a length of 23.3 meters and a breadth of 6.4 meters they can reach 20 knots and have a range of 190 miles. They are fitted with two water jet propulsion units giving the LLCs a longer range, outstanding manoeuvrability, increase speed and more power compared to current in-service ADF landing craft.

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Two x LHD will provide some serious ASW capability adding in the P-8 and we have a work in together combination

Plus 3 new DDG as escorts gives the Aussies a powerful force projection

SamuraiBlue said:

One point for sure is that physics dictates if you use the same hull design using the same material, the amount of buoyancy would be the same limiting the total amount of mass and balance that can be placed on the vessel.

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yeah but how this translates into $ or € or £ or, SamuraiBlue, ¥ ?

(my original post http://www.sinodefenceforum.com/wor...itary-news-discussion-15-5727.html#post302199 basically asks what's the price of the hull, and what of the rest of a modern warship)

Article to maintain focus on subject.

Australia leans toward buying Japan subs to upgrade fleet
Japan and Australia are leaning toward a multibillion-dollar sale by Tokyo of a fleet of stealth submarines to Canberra's military in a move that could rile an increasingly assertive China, people familiar with the talks said.

An agreement is still some months away, three people said, but the unprecedented sale of off-the-shelf vessels based on the Maritime Self-Defense Force's Soryu class sub is emerging as the likeliest option.

Such a deal would signal a major expansion of Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's controversial drive for a more active military after decades of pacifism. Rival China regularly accuses Abe of reviving Japan's wartime militarism.

Australia is eager to get the quiet-running diesel-engine subs from Japan, despite the political backlash that would follow from abandoning a government pledge to build the vessels at home, said a person with knowledge of Canberra's thinking.

"It is the best option out there," said the source.....to read more

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the official press-release:

mentions China too

Some imagery from exercise Kakadu 2014.

Aircrew and maintainers from the Royal Australian Air Force 79 Squadron stand in front of their Hawk 127 fast jet on a taxi way of RAAF Base Darwin on their final day of providing support to Exercise KAKADU 2014.



Pakistan Navy Ship, PNS Saif transits past a sunrise during Exercise KAKADU 2014 in the North Australian Exercise Area.



Pakistan Navy ship PNS Nasr conducts a replenishment at sea (RAS) with HMAS Sydney (FFG 03) during Exercise KAKADU 2014.



Philippine Navy Gregorio del Pilar class BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16), Anzac Class HMAS Stuart (FFH 153) and Adelaide Class HMAS Sydney (FFG03) alongside Fort Hill Wharf, Darwin, during Exercise KAKADU 2014.




Members of the coalition fleet (from closest) HMAS Stuart, Philippine Navy Ship, Pakistan Navy Ship, PNS Nasr and HMAS Arunta come together in the North Australian Exercise Area (NAXA) off the coast of Darwin, Northern territory during Exercise KAKADU 2014.



Philippine Navy BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16) and Japan Maritime Self Defense Force ship JS Hatakaze (DDG 171) conduct Officer of the Watch drills with HMAS Sydney (FFG 03) during Exercise KAKADU 2014 off the coast of Darwin.



HMAS Newcastle and HMAS Arunta conduct Officer of the Watch manoeuvres with Pakistan Navy Ship, PNS Saif during Exercise KAKADU 2014.




Japan Maritime Self Defense Force Hatakaze class destroyer JS Hatakaze (DDG 171) leads Philippine Navy Gregorio del Pilar class BRP Ramon Alcaraz (PF-16) during a gunnery exercise as part of Exercise KAKADU 2014

Labor claim Japanese subs are inferior, a threat to Australian defense and regional stability. Labors vow to cancel the deal if they win 2016 election.