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Jeff Head

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I would be more than happy to see BAE take over as prime contractor for the AWD project.
Me too. I think it would be a good move.



After the completion of the Anzac class FFH at the Williamstown yard far too much knowledge and skills were lost due to a lack of follow on work. Given these skills and knowledge have again been built up with the construction of hull blocks for the AWD project and LHD fit out it's imperative that this workforce is kept together. It would seem on the face of it that the Government is heeding lessons learned from past experience.
Agreed.

As I've already stated earlier in the thread, I suspect the Government would like to base the future frigate program around the F100 hull if it can be demonstrated that naval shipbuilding in this country is capable of delivering on time and on budget. Serial production of a portion of the F100 hull blocks for this program out of the Williamstown yard makes sense given it has already produced them for the AWD.
That would be an interesting, and very logical move. Same hull but in a mulit-role frigate configuartion with far less AAW capabilities. I had also heard that the UKs Type 26 GCS was a considetration. Is that true?

I also think it's makes sense that ASC in Adelaide is allowed to concentrate on Collins SSG maintenance work. Some major strides have been made in this program of late and needs to continue if they are to be a part of the future submarine requirement.
I am hoping that Australia teams with Japan and gets a good tranfer deal and a good building deal to build an improved, Australian specific version of the Soryu SSKs, right there in Australia.

They are a very good, proven design, and the Australian's own expertise added to them will do nothing but imporve them, IMHO.
 

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Australian Navy’s brand new Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) Landing Craft have been out and about on Sydney Harbour and local waterways as NUSHIP Canberra personnel continue their training on this exciting new capability.

The LHD Landing Craft (LLC) are scheduled to be handed over to Canberra in the coming months. In the mean time, the Canberra teams who will be driving, crewing and maintaining the vessels are undertaking further contractor training based at HMAS Waterhen.

Commander Surface Force, Commodore Jonathan Mead, joined Canberra’s Commanding Officer, Captain Jonathan Sadleir, during a visit onboard an LLC to witness first hand aspects of the new landing craft.

“It was an excellent opportunity to see NUSHIP Canberra coxswains and crew demonstrate the skills they have learned in handling these brand new landing craft as part of their graduated training process,” Commodore Mead said.

The 23 metre, 56 tonne (unloaded) craft have two water jet propulsion units giving the LLCs a longer range, outstanding manoeuvrability, increase speed and more power compared to current in-service ADF landing craft.

Canberra LLC coxswain Leading Seaman Boatswain Mate Michael Hines said he was proud to demonstrate the new craft.

“It was great to have Commodore Surface Force and the Commanding Officer onboard to demonstrate the skills we have developed and expose them to some of the challenges that we will potentially face when operating these craft,” Leading Seaman Hines said.

“It is a huge responsibility that someone of my rank will be in charge of a 56 tonne vessel and crew that will be operating potentially many miles from the LHD.

“I had the opportunity to demonstrate a beach landing and also to show the Commodore the wheelhouse and the layout of the console,” Leading Seaman Hines said.

Canberra’s Dock Officer, Lieutenant Commander Michael Nipperess said his department was very fortunate to soon become the first custodians of the new LLCs.

“The LLCs are one of the ‘jewels in the crown” as part of the overall capability of the Landing Helicopter Dock,” Lieutenant Commander Nipperess said.

“I have been really impressed with the Canberra teams who have built up such an excellent skill level in a relatively short period of time on these brand new craft,” he said.

Each LHD will be assigned six LLCs, but can only carry four at any one time. The extra two craft will be used for training at the LLC school and also provide redundancy for periods of routine maintenance.

The LHD’s primary roles are to embark, transport and deploy an embarked force along with their equipment and aviation units, and to carry out/support humanitarian missions. In either of these situations the Landing Craft provide an essential role – particularly when operating in areas that are inaccessible by other means or there is an absence of port infrastructure.

Each Australian LHD can carry four of these LCM-1Es. They are essentially the same landing craft carried by the Juan Carlos of the Spanish. They can carry one Abrams tank each, or one self-propelled howitzer and its support vehicle, or up to six light armored vehicles, or up to 170 troops and their equipment.

Here are some more pictures of the LCM-1E landing craft in operation (these are Spanish landing craft, the Australians have not progressed to this point yet).


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SouthernSky

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I had also heard that the UKs Type 26 GCS was a considetration. Is that true?

Yes Jeff, no options have been taken off the table as of yet. Sea 5000 (Future Frigate Program) is still in it's requirements definition phase so still a long way to go before any decisions are made. I believe some aspects of the program are on hold until the completion of the Defence White Paper next year.
 

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I don't understand why they want BAE to take over the project.
They were the one which delayed the AWD project initially.
Also if I remember correctly it was the previous Australian Government itself that asked ASC to slow down construction and preserve their workforce for next construction program.
 

SouthernSky

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I don't understand why they want BAE to take over the project.
They were the one which delayed the AWD project initially.

Not entirely true Tako. Hull block construction plans submitted by Navantia to BAE that were found to be inaccurate were responsible for initial delays from BAE's Williamstown yard.

Also if I remember correctly it was the previous Australian Government itself that asked ASC to slow down construction and preserve their workforce for next construction program.

There is some truth in this however. What continues to be of concern to the current Government is this.

We are currently running at 150 man-hours per tonne when the international benchmark is 60 man-hours per tonne.

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A solution to two problems needs to be found. The first problem is that the ships are well behind schedule and will be required in the very near future.

The second problem is one that I alluded to a couple of posts ago. BAE's Williamstown yard, with it's current workforce and it's skills and knowledge base, needs to be preserved. Having BAE take over as prime contractor gives the company the ability to allocate more work to this yard. At present, this ability does not exist.
 

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The Royal Australian Navy (RAN) has completed its first test firings of the AGM-114 Hellfire air-to-surface missile from an MH-60R Seahawk maritime helicopter, the Department of Defence said on 30 July.

The test firings - of two ATM-114Q-1 training missiles - were conducted at the US Navy's (USN's) Atlantic Undersea Test and Evaluation Centre (AUTEC) range near the Andros Islands in the Bahamas.

Australia has purchased 24 MH-60R helicopters under its AUD3.2 billion Project AIR 9000 Phase 8 to replace the RAN's 16 S-70B-2 Seahawk in anti-submarine warfare (ASW) and anti-surface warfare (ASuW) roles.

The aircraft are expected to embark the RAN's Anzac-class guided-missile frigates, plus three Hobart-class guided-missile destroyers once the ships come into service. The first four Seahawk Romeos have been accepted by the RAN and are being operated by 725 Squadron alongside three USN MH-60R squadrons based out of Jacksonville naval air station in Florida.
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725 Squadron new unit, S-70B-2 used by Sqn 816 which also carry Helfire and torpedoes.
 

asif iqbal

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Down under the Aussies are bundling a pretty impressive helo fleet for the two LHD they are commissioning

3 x DDG and 2 x LHD plenty of heavy tonnage there for a serious amphibious landings

JMSDF trumps the RAN in every shape and form but together they are put together a force of about two times a Expeditionary Marine Force the JMSDF is working on just that a 3,000 marine force is being structured after the USN for Island taking operations using flat tops
 

asif iqbal

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Really want our Aussie friends to participate in the "Global Combat Ship" project.

Slightly different requirements and anyone getting the GCS is going to be a very tough call although UK is being as flexible as possible and I mean really flexible they offered it to Turkey as part of the TF project and it didn't get very far even although Turkey's requirement is not that far away from UK but actually they are looking for area defence FFG the Type 26 is becoming very strong in ASW

Australia will really have to wait another 5 years or so before they put a order in and UK is desperate to reduce the unit cost
 
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