Aircraft Carriers III

bd popeye

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On GE you can see on the last views 2 CVs retired in 2014 four with about 10 Los Angeles take a look Popeye :)
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I wonder if she will be towed through the new Panama Canal? ..

The photo displays what happens to ships when there is no maintenance on the hull once they are stricken from the "Navy list".

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USS Independence (CV 62) awards;

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FORBIN

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I wonder if she will be towed through the new Panama Canal? ..

The photo displays what happens to ships when there is no maintenance on the hull once they are stricken from the "Navy list".

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USS Independence (CV 62) awards;

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For hull yes but no coz flight deck more large carriers are asymnetric ships unusual, look pics with poles no.
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I remenber :) i have again Magazines and looking French TV, no Internet at that time ! but yet in the business hehe

On 2 August, in response to Iraq's invasion of
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, Independence was sent to deter further
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aggression during
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. Arriving on station in the
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on 5 August, Independence was the first carrier to enter the
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since 1974. The ship remained on station for 112 days and permanently reestablished a U.S. naval presence in the region. She returned to San Diego on 20 December 1990.
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FORBIN

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On GE you can see on the last views 2 CVs retired in 2014 four with about 10 Los Angeles take a look Popeye :)
47°33'19.93"N122°38'34.13"O



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Jeff had do great posts for these brave Daddy's

So remains 3 Super carriers :

USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) the last retired to Bremerton 47°33'19.93"N 122°38'34.13"O with Perry also

USS John F. Kennedy (CV-67) to Philadephia 39°53'21.45"N 75°10'56.95"O with Perry also

And ofc USS Independence (CV-62) as all Forrestal going for broken at Brownsville also Kitty hawk Class USS Constellation (CV-64), America sunk as target

Bremerton
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bd popeye

The Last Jedi
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Jeff had do great posts for these brave Daddy's

So remains 3 Super carriers :

USS Kitty Hawk (CV-63) the last retired to Bremerton 47°33'19.93"N 122°38'34.13"O with Perry also
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..and only Kitty Hawk is held in reserve. And when CVN-78 is commissioned Kitty Hawk will be stricken from the Navy list..aaarrrvvv..

The oldest active carrier serving with the US Navy is Nimitz. She was commissioned into service on 3 May 1975 at Naval Station Norfolk VA....and she is preparing for another deployment;

MANCHESTER, Wash. (March 13, 2017) USS Nimitz(CVN 68) exits Sinclair Inlet and transits Puget Sound en route to conduct Composite Training Unit Exercise (COMPTUEX). COMPTUEX is a critical part of the pre-deployment training cycle, with successful completion certifying the carrier and its air wing as qualified for open ocean operations. (U.S. Navy photos by Mass Communication Specialist 2nd Class Vaughan Dill/Released)

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because they believe they are the ones with the sea denial missiles.

Best work arounds I have heard is to take the offensive edge. Keep the US carrier numbers around where they are in the 300+ fleet schemes and up the number of Virginia class SSGN configured subs. The sea denial missiles can take surface targets but if the threat is submersible the threat Dynamics change. Sea denial is aimed to deny access and reaction by US carrier forces and allow the denying nation unrestricted access. But subs can deny.
the link(s) to back up the assertion I highlighted above:

(yes, I did a google search; went through the first page of hits, didn't notice anything even remotely supporting your "AND part")
 
now I read
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The usefulness of
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long the centerpiece of American naval power in the world, was in serious question, even by me, one year ago. Chronic underfunding, poor strategic assumptions and bad acquisition decisions had left the carrier defensively unprotected and offensively underpowered as its airwing both shrank in size and striking range.

President Trump’s election and his public commitment to a 350-ship Navy as well as his
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, effectively truncates these concerns, bringing the promise of additional capabilities that will ensure the safety and effectiveness of the carrier.

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highlight the
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to keep the flattops relevant. In an era marked by flat defense budgets and a dwindling carrier fleet, down from 15 in 1991 to 10 today, the carrier simply didn’t have enough defense around it, with escort ships falling from eight (two cruisers, two destroyers, two frigates and two fast attack submarines) to six and even two (a cruiser and destroyer) in some cases. Also, the carrier’s offensive power, in the form of its embarked airwing, has shrunk from a Cold War compliment of 85 aircraft with an average combat range of 908 miles to a modern compliment of 62 aircraft with a range of 496 miles.These characteristics threaten to deny the carrier an effective role in a high-end fight against a rising power like China or established regional powers like Russia or Iran.Had these conditions of fiscal restraint and quantitative decline persisted, then it would have eventually been necessary to move on to
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more in keeping with nation’s trend towards a
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as promoted by the Obama administration. However, the election of Donald Trump signaled a domestic rejection of these “lead from behind” policies and conveyed the need to reassess the viability of the carrier.

Donald Trump campaigned explicitly on the promise to
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from
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as part of his plan to broadly rebuild the nation’s military after
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.The last time the US Navy held 350 ships in its inventory was during the late 1990s, a decade that saw the maritime force shrink from 530 to 318 ships.It was an era of uni-polarity, expanding alliances, peace keeping, nation building and permissive maritime environments. Carriers launching airstrikes into the former Yugoslavia could nestle close to shore in the Adriatic, secure in the knowledge that no one was coming out to attack them.Older nuclear powered escort cruisers, which could keep up with the high-speed carriers without being concerned with running out of fuel, were retired, and then older variants of the anti-air defensive Ticonderoga class cruisers were decommissioned as well.An entire class of
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were mothballed well ahead of schedule then sunk as targets during training exercises.More recently all
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without replacement.While the Navy retained 22 cruisers and continued to build robust Arleigh Burke class destroyers, it was clear that the service was, in the parlance of the Pentagon, “accepting risks” in the deployment of its fleet in the face of rising threats.

Those threats came primarily from
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, who, while the United States was focused on combat operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, began to develop and deploy a battery of sensors and weapons intended to push American carriers farther out to sea, beyond the attack range of their embarked airwings. By the time the United States began to break its tight strategic focus on counter-terrorism land wars, the fleet had fallen well below 300 ships and was no longer able to provide sufficient defense to the carrier in contested waters.Operations such as a relief mission in support of Taiwan or a rapid movement of troops and equipment into the Baltic sea were no longer a given. The common presidential question of “where are the carriers” began to progress towards a question of concern for their safety rather than an appeal for their mobile and robust strength.

But a 350-ship Navy, an increase of 76 ships from the present inventory, will bring the additional air-defensive Aegis destroyers as well as new escort
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to surround and protect the carrier in hostile environments.The carrier’s airwing will also see and expansion in its range and capabilities, as President Trump
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even as his Defense Secretary
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in contested A2AD airspace.

The bottom line is that President Trump’s commitment to a larger Navy reflects the investment that is both necessary and prudent to keep the carrier relevant and the nation militarily strong. The debate about the viability of the aircraft carrier was important in that it helped to identify the actions needed to ensure that the centerpiece of the American fleet could remain in the fight in future security environments, but that debate ended on Election Day and the elevation of a president committed to a growing Navy.
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TerraN_EmpirE

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the link(s) to back up the assertion I highlighted above:

(yes, I did a google search; went through the first page of hits, didn't notice anything even remotely supporting your "AND part")
Jura it's opinion based and logic based but if you want analysis.
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The logic is simple if you deny access to others you are allowed unrestricted dominance.
 
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