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asif iqbal

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I finally got the correct files uploaded to my own domain. HAd a duce of a time getting the old files to be replaced in the up;load process. Ultimately had to acutally go on the domain provider's server and phyiscally delete the old files and replace them with the new ones. So, here are those files:

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Jeff you can add another flat top to this once the design requirements for new Turkish flat top are out
 

bd popeye

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In Jeff's post #4337 you see photos of at least USN 5 CVNs rigging the barricade. I'd like to see just one photo/video of the PLAN CV-16 flight deck crew performing a rig the barricade drill..just one.
 

Jeff Head

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Here it looks like the airplane torn off that barricade ...
No, not at all. The barricade worked as designed.

You see that on the top and bottom the main strands are still ion tact and stretching back to the stanchions. They have not broken. The other strands and netting have come together, twisted and tangled...but in doing so they maintain their strength. A few may have snapped...but most are still there, all wrapped together...and they have stoped the F-14, which was what they were desinged to do.
 

Jeff Head

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Why wait for the USS Barack Obama ? Seven out of the ten Nimitz class carriers are named after former US presidents, one is named after a admiral, one after a congressman and one a senator. And the first 2 Gerald Ford class carriers are named after former presidents.
It is not inappropriate to name capitol vessels for historical figures...those universally recognized as having contributed to the preservation of the nation, particularly in times of major conflict or war.

Let's look at the vessels you cite:

CVN-68 Nimitz - Overall commanding Admiral during World War II naval combat in the Pacific

CVN-69 Eisenhower - Overall commander of US Forces in World War II and later President

CVN-70 Vinson - Served over 50 years (1914-1965) in the US Congress, was very influential with Military matters through two world wars, and particularly US Navy matters, and was known as the father of the Two-Ocean Navy.

CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt - Combat veteran, major contributor to and influencer of US Navy, and ultimately President.

CVN-72 Abraham Lincoln - President who led the nation through the civil war and preserved the Repuiblic

CVN-73 George Washington- Father of the nation and commanding general of all US forces in the Revolutionary War.

CVN-74 USS John C. Stennis A very ranking Senator who chaired the Armed Services Committee for years and who was extrremely influential in the development of the modern U.S. Navy.

CVN-75 Truman - Combat officer in World War I, became President of the United States who was victorious over Japan.

CVN-76 Ronald Reagan - President of the United States who engineered and preservered in winning the Cold War and was a huge proponent of the US Navy.

CVN-77 George HW Bush - Combat flight officer/pilot during World War II who was shot down and who later was a war President through Desert Storm.

CVN-78 Gerald R. Ford - US Navy combat officer in World War II and later President of the United States.

CVN-79 John F. Kennedy - US Navy combat officer in World War II and later President of the United States

All of these are acceptable to me (some more than others), and were given those names in accordance to their accomplishments as leaders (both military and in public service) who influenced key issues (either in combat or otherwise) that had significant impact on naval matters or those of the overall nation.

It is when names are given out as political awards and for purley political purposes to individuals who had no such impact or involvement, or who exhibited their own disdain for America's military personnel, that, IMHO, the line is crossed.

Caesar Chavez and John Murtha are a couple of examples. There are several others.
 

Jeff Head

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Popeye, I think they won't show you this, as they fear you'd criticize the way they perform it :)
Well, I know you are just joking...but I believe Popeye would be happy to see that they were just doing it and learning it.

Sure, to begin with they would have areas for improvement...maybe many of them...but the fact that they are doing those types of things shows the type of progress they are making in the many, many not-so-flashy areas of work, maintenance, operations, and procedures that lay the foundation for all of those other more dramatic and flashy capabilities.

Having a J-15 come in with a damaged landing gear or tail hook...or numerous other potential issues, and be able to save the pilot and aircraft without endagering other aircraft or personnel is a very critical capability to have in this business.
 

kwaigonegin

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Why wait for the USS Barack Obama ? Seven out of the ten Nimitz class carriers are named after former US presidents, one is named after a admiral, one after a congressman and one a senator. And the first 2 Gerald Ford class carriers are named after former presidents.

I don't think you got what I was trying to say.. nevermind lol
 

bd popeye

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Well, I know you are just joking...but I believe Popeye would be happy to see that they were just doing it and learning it.

Exactly!!!

I never criticize. ^^^^. I just give my honest observation. If someone is goofing up I'm sure to let them know. If they are doing it correctly the same apply's...really.

Caesar Chavez and John Murtha are a couple of examples. There are several others.

Exactly...There are five CVNs names I would change tomorrow if I was SECNAV. He has the authority.

I'm hoping that on this Friday before or after the funeral of Petty officer Mark Mayo a combatant US Navy ship is named after this American hero...How about..USS Mark Mayo (LCS 11).
 
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