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Jura said:

never say never, thunderchief, what about the 6.5 tons of Su-33's payload..

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bd popeye said:

Could it launch fro the ski ramp with that much payload including fuel? I don't this so. Just my opinion.

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Obi Wan Russell said:

Actually the correct term is 'Bridle' not harness, and on the French Clemenceau class carriers (ie currently just the Brazillian Sao Paolo) the catapults are British! BS5s to be precise... the shuttle on the deck has to be swapped over between launching the SEMs and Rafales. Previously when the USN had air groups with mixed methods of launching (bridle or nose tow) the catapult shuttle could accomodate both types.

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bd popeye said:

Could it launch fro the ski ramp with that much payload including fuel? I don't this so. Just my opinion.

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Jura said:

never say never, thunderchief, what about the 6.5 tons of Su-33's payload, I doubt you think this would include air-to-air missiles only ... and I think that if a Russian aircraft carrier had been sent to, for example, the Mediterranean, land targets would have been attacked by those Su-33s during a conflict in this area

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bd popeye said:

Could it launch fro the ski ramp with that much payload including fuel? I don't this so. Just my opinion.

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Empty weight: 19,600 kg
Curb weight (without fuel): 20,440 kg (2 × R-27E + 2 × R-73)
Normal take-off weight:

with partial filling: 26000 kg
with full fuel: 29940 kg

Maximum Takeoff Weight: 33,000 kg
Fuel Weight: 9500 kg

main option for refilling: 5350 kg

Fuel capacity: 12100 l
Normal landing weight: 22,400 kg
Reserve Landing Weight: 26000 kg

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bd popeye said:

Could it launch fro the ski ramp with that much payload including fuel? I don't this so. Just my opinion.

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INS Vikramaditya begins voyage to India

The Indian Navy’s flagship aircraft carrier will be refuelled at a White Sea port before setting sail for Karwar in south-western India.

Early Tuesday morning, when it was still dark at Severodvinsk latitude, but the tide had come in, the factory tug boats drove the INS Vikramaditya away from the harbour wall and made a turn heading north. On this occasion the Indian sailors and all those who have gathered on the shore to see them off, solemnly lined up on the aircraft carrier’s flight deck, to experience the symbolic significance of the moment.

The outlines of the large above ship’s superstructures were part of the factory waters for more than a decade. The project itself was a serious challenge for our shipbuilding industry in the framework of military-technical cooperation between India and Russia. The main part the contract signed in 2004 for the repair and renovation of the heavy aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov was executed, whereby it was made into a full-fledged aircraft carrier to be used by the Indian Naval Forces. Essentially reborn, the ship was officially handed over to the Indian side on November 16.

Previously, the date of dispatch of the Vikramaditya aircraft carrier to its permanent base was Saturday, November 30, but considering the extent of the ship’s readiness, its exit in the sea was moved a few days ahead at the request of the Indian crew’s commander Commodore Suraj Berry.

“The wiring of the aircraft carrier along the terminal canal was facilitated by the Sevmash water transport department’s specialists and the related services of the Belomorskaya naval base, which provides services for navigation and hydro-meteorological support,” Yekaterina Pilikina, the head of the press service of the Severodvinsk shipyard said this morning over the phone.

After the aircraft carrier is driven out by the tug boats to a conditional location in the White Sea, where the depth of water under the keel allows it to run its own high power plant and the regular supply of diesel fuel to be taken on board, the ship will be anchored and its bunkering will begin. The fuel reception and subsequent border crossing and customs clearance registration can take up to two days – depending on the weather conditions at this location in the White Sea.

Together with the Indian crew, 183 Russian specialists headed by the deliverer in charge Igor Leonov will undergo border control. As previously reported, this group of technical advisers was attached for the transition time at the Indian side’s request, they will oversee the ship mechanisms work, help the Indian crew operate them correctly, quickly eliminate possible faults.

According to the Russian party’s warranty, part of this team of experts will remain in India after the arrival of the aircraft carrier to its permanent base location in Karwar.

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Former Soviet Aircraft Carrier Sets Sail for India

The long awaited aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya sailed off to serve in the Indian Navy on Tuesday, after completing a multi year upgrade at a United Shipbuilding Company shipyard.

The craft, originally built in 1987 for the Soviet Navy and christened the Admiral Gorshkov, had been undergoing modernization for the Indian Navy since 2004, with delivery dates repeatedly pushed back by a series of delays.

After leaving the Sevmash shipyard in Severodvinsk, on the White Sea, the carrier will dock for several days in Murmansk for customs procedures and refueling, and then will be escorted by Indian Navy vessels to its new home base, Interfax reported.

A Russian crew of more than 180 servicemen will accompany the craft to India to instruct Indian sailors in the use of equipment and help with maintenance and any repairs.

The craft is scheduled to stop at 14 foreign seaports, before reaching India in early January to begin service.

Work on the ship under an initial $1.8 billion contract had been scheduled to be completed by 2008, but a series of delays and additional costs have driven the total sum of the contract to $2.3 billion.

The contract also included the purchase of MIG fighter jets and helicopters to be used on the ship by the Indian Navy.

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The Russian navy has taken delivery of its first four series-produced MiG-29K/KUB carrier based fighter jets, the Defense Ministry said Monday. “The MiG aircraft-manufacturing corporation has handed over two MiG-29K single-seat and two MiG-29KUB twin-seat carrier-based fighter aircraft,” a spokesman said.

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