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asif iqbal said:

Isn't Newport News the same place where those eight giants are based? I am talking about the Algol Class sea lift ships

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Newport News is where the ship building yards are. Norfolk, VA, not too far from there, is where te large Navy base is It's called Naval Station Norfolk (NSN).

Naval Station Norfolk inclusdes Naval Air Station Norfolk and occupies about four miles of waterfront space and seven miles of pier and wharf space alongside 14 piers on the Hampton Road's peninsula in Virginia known as Sewell's Point. Naval Station Norfolk is the world's largest naval station, supporting scores of ships and many naval aircraft in 11 large aircraft hangar facilities. This one base houses the largest single concentration of U.S. Naval forces in the world.

Currently all of the following types of vessels are home ported at Naval Station Norfolk:

5 x Nimitz Class CVN nuclear aircraft carriers
4 x Wasp Class LHD amphibious assault carriers
5 x Ticonderoga Class CG AEGIS cruisers
24 x Arleigh Burke Class DDG AEGIS destroyers
3 x Perry Class FFG Frigates
4 x San Antonio Class LPD amphibious assault ships
1 x Austin Class LPD amphibious assault ship
7 x Los Angeles Class SSN nuclear attack submarines

5 x Kaiser Class T-AO fleet replinshment ships
2 x Supply Class T-AOE fast fleet replinishment ships
2 x Lewis and Clark Class T-AKE dry cargo ships
2 x Safeguard Class T-ARS salvage ships
1 x Mercy Class T-AH hospital ship
1 x Powhaten Class T-ATF tug
1 x Zues Class T-ARC cable ship.

Air Force Brat said:

I don't know for sure, but she looks good, when is she departing asif???? and now for my dumb question of the week, guys, is the Ford UGLY, or am I just a zoomie, no offense intended, I can't find a single line on her that does a thing for me??? respectfully brat

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Well she has that aft sponsons that Nimitz class ships don't have so she looks a lil hmm plump on her rear end.

I guess it all depends on whether you

I'd like to see the enlisted berthing for E-6 and below aboard Gerald R Ford. It has to be an improvement over any other class of carrier the USN has ever had. Those 175 man berthing spaces are not fun...kwaigonegin knows what I'm talking about.

bd popeye said:

I'd like to see the enlisted berthing for E-6 and below aboard Gerald R Ford. It has to be an improvement over any other class of carrier the USN has ever had. Those 175 man berthing spaces are not fun...kwaigonegin knows what I'm talking about.

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You are going to be amazed, Popeye.

Rear Adm. Thomas Moore, the man most responsible for input from the Navy into the design, said this about the berthing spaces in an interview on Navy Times on November 8, 2013, a couple of weeks ago:

Admiral Moore said:

“It’s a complete rearrangement of how we feed the crew and of how we berth the crew,” Moore said.

"For example, Nimitz-class carriers have berthing areas with as many as 200 people. The Ford class will have much smaller accommodations, with no more than 30 to a room and each will have their own head and shower facilities.

“That’s a big deal because today on a Nimitz-class, some sailors have to put on gym gear and take a towel and pad down the hall back and forth to where the shower is.

"We think that will be a really big deal from a quality-of-life standpoint.”

"In those berthing areas, sailors will have access to the Internet, on-demand TV and other comforts earlier carrier sailors could only dream of," he went on.

Though the later Nimitz-class ships were designed with gyms onboard, the Ford class is the first to incorporate them upfront. Moore said there will be three gyms onboard to help meet the crew’s fitness needs.

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Hear that? No more than 30 to a room and each person their own individual bunk, and as I read it, each of those rooms with their own head, and showers. Wow!

They have cut down the entire crew from well over 5,000 to less than 4,500 including the airwing, and then redesigned the internal spaces to use that space in such a way to make life a lot nicer for the lower enlisted grades.

Can't wait to see some pics as they outfit those areas.

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Here's another intriguing thing he says in that interview:

Admiral Moore said:

“The Navy has a concerted effort underway for things like lasers and directed energy weapons — I like to say ‘photon torpedoes,’ ” Moore said, making reference to the fictitious weapons on Star Trek’s Enterprise. “It’s not hard to imagine that in 10 to 15 years down the road, as these technologies evolve, all of these new technologies use tremendous amounts of power, that the Ford class is really set up in a way to handle those.”

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You're going to see CIWS rail guns and Lasers before the mid-20s IMHO.

Thanks for posting that info Jeff.. I feel like driving to Newport News to take a gander at GRF!!

When I was aboard JFK The first division I was assigned to was Air Missile division. We had a small berthing of about 28 racks. Nice. But when G division and AM division combined before the 1973 deployment All us lower rated guys hadda move to G Division main berthing which slept about 175 shipmates..I hated it..

Happy to see the accommodations improving....vastly!!

Jeff Head said:

You are going to be amazed, Popeye.

Rear Adm. Thomas Moore, the man most responsible for input from the Navy into the design, said this about the berthing spaces in an interview on Navy Times on November 8, 2013, a couple of weeks ago:



Hear that? No more than 30 to a room and each person their own individual bunk, and as I read it, each of those rooms with their own head, and showers. Wow!

They have cut down the entire crew from well over 5,000 to less than 4,500 including the airwing, and then redesigned the internal spaces to use that space in such a way to make life a lot nicer for the lower enlisted grades.

Can't wait to see some pics as they outfit those areas.

Read the whole story:

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Here's another intriguing thing he says in that interview:

You're going to see CIWS rail guns and Lasers before the mid-20s IMHO.

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Nice to hear. Crew comfirt is key! Well that and food which I'm sure the new carrier will have an even better mess hall ,galley and more importantly good chow!

bd popeye said:

Thanks for posting that info Jeff.. I feel like driving to Newport News to take a gander at GRF!!

When I was aboard JFK The first division I was assigned to was Air Missile division. We had a small berthing of about 28 racks. Nice. But when G division and AM division combined before the 1973 deployment All us lower rated guys hadda move to G Division main berthing which slept about 175 shipmates..I hated it..

Happy to see the accommodations improving....vastly!!

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Thank you for serving, Darth.

Impressive view of Kuznetsov SS-N-19 launchers, 12.

I did a little research and searching to find relatively recent pictures of the Russian Aircraft Carrier Kuznetsov and its internal spaces, partiuclarly its bridge, CIC, and air operations and mapping areas.

What I found was that the Kuznetsov remains, in terms of its electronics and its equipment, a very 1980s vintage vessel. This does not mean that the vessel cannot be operated effectively, or that it somehow is not "up to snuff," (as we say here in the states) to other STOBAR (SHort take-off, barrier assisted recovery) aircraft carriers in terms of its ability to launch and recover aircraft, project power, or defend Russian interests.

It does indicate that the Russians have a lot of work to do in their planned multi-year refit where they intend to modernize the 25+ year old vessel.

Here are those pictures:


As you can see, the workstations, the displays, instrumentation, and work areas are not integrated like newer vessels, and most of the devices themselves are older analog equipment. At the same time, they are clearly stout, and of industrial quality and built to be operated in and handle a rough environment. Supposedly, the newer digital equipment on other nation's newere vessels is also built to take the same type of punishment and operate in that same environment.

Anyhow, I thought this would be of interest here on SinoDefence given some of the discussions we have had regarding the operating environment and equipment on the bridges of other vessels, like the Vikramaditya, the Liaoning, US nuclear carriers, etc.

One thing is for sure, it gives insight into why the rebuilt/refittted Russian Gorshkov, now the Indian Virkamaditay, looks and operates the way it does after refit by the Russians. It is how they operate. Here again is the Vikramaditya's bridge:

Pretty stunning video (best watched in full screen / HD)

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