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SImilar to the Korean Navy's Dokdo class LPH
This LPH is bigger than the Principe Asturias carrier of the Spanish navy
The JMSDF typically build their fleets around the 8-8 fleet of 8 destroyers and 8 helicopters. This force consists of 1 DDH, 2 DDG, and five DD's. So a typical the future JMSDF fleet can consists of:
1 Hyuga Class
2 Kongo/Atago Class (Flight 1/ Flight II/A Burke derivative)
5 Takami Class/Murasami Class
Very powerful fleet. The JMSDF has always been under estimated.
This LPH is bigger than the Principe Asturias carrier of the Spanish navy
The JMSDF typically build their fleets around the 8-8 fleet of 8 destroyers and 8 helicopters. This force consists of 1 DDH, 2 DDG, and five DD's. So a typical the future JMSDF fleet can consists of:
1 Hyuga Class
2 Kongo/Atago Class (Flight 1/ Flight II/A Burke derivative)
5 Takami Class/Murasami Class
Very powerful fleet. The JMSDF has always been under estimated.
Of course they can carry 4 helos. They just aren't mentioning the next four, or the next four after those... Beautiful ships though. Any word on the total number of hulls they plan to build (beyond any existing orders)? I'd have thought they would want at least four before they move on to the next class (assuming they really do replace the Haruna/Shirane class in service, IIRC that would mean four hulls.)
Well, with these vessels, as you say, the JMSDF will be able to put to sea a very credible SAG/Sea Control task force with a Hyuga, a Atago, a Kongo, and a couple of each Takanamis and Murasamis. Very powerful indeed.
If you add in two Osumis, then you also have a very credible and powerful Amphibious Task force as well.
The JMSDF is really stepping things up in the Western Pacific.
Here are pics of the vessels that would make up such a Sea Control/Amphibious taks force for the JMSDF:
Very few navies have the modern capabilities, the numbers, or the experience that they have. I do not believe any other naval personnel underestimate them in the least...or politicians who are in the know either. Its just that a lot of people are not aware of the very credible navy they have built. We're glad to have them as allies.
The official word is two Obi Wan. But, as the other two DDHs age, I would not be surprised at all to see a follow-on, improved build of two more.Obi wan Russell said:
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Australian pilots to be trained to land FA-18Fs on USN carriers:
The Australian Newspaper last week carried a story that a select group of RAAF instructor pilots is to be trained to land the FA-18F Super Hornet on USN aircraft carriers.
Is it possible that the RAAF Super Hornet squadron might deploy occasionally from a US carrier in the same way as USMC squadrons?
There is currently no plan to operate fixed wing aircraft from the new Canberra class LHDs that the RAN is acquiring and it seems most unlikely that the navy will re establish a fixed wing combat force within the Fleet Air Arm because of the duplication of effort and cost that this would involve for a small force like the Australian Defence Force (ADF). However, there are calls from pressure groups, like the Navy League, and even the Joint Parliamentary Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade for the F-35B to be ordered for the ADF to provide an organic air combat force to be able to support troops deployed from the new LHDs. It is likely that the first 3 RAAF squadrons to operate the JSF will get the F-35A. However the fourth squadron could be equipped with the F-35B with comparative ease, so far as logistics and support is concerned.
The reported plan to train RAAF pilots to fly Super Hornets from USN carriers is interesting in this regard as it could be a way of developing RAAF interest in operating aircraft at sea. My belief is that there is a place for an RAAF squadron to train like a USMC squadron. If the Australian SH squadron is able to actually deploy from an American carrier on an occasional basis it could pave the way for future RAAF F-35B operations from RAN and/or USN LHDs. The plan mentioned in The Australian could be good starting point.
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The Australian Newspaper last week carried a story that a select group of RAAF instructor pilots is to be trained to land the FA-18F Super Hornet on USN aircraft carriers.
Is it possible that the RAAF Super Hornet squadron might deploy occasionally from a US carrier in the same way as USMC squadrons?
There is currently no plan to operate fixed wing aircraft from the new Canberra class LHDs that the RAN is acquiring and it seems most unlikely that the navy will re establish a fixed wing combat force within the Fleet Air Arm because of the duplication of effort and cost that this would involve for a small force like the Australian Defence Force (ADF). However, there are calls from pressure groups, like the Navy League, and even the Joint Parliamentary Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade for the F-35B to be ordered for the ADF to provide an organic air combat force to be able to support troops deployed from the new LHDs. It is likely that the first 3 RAAF squadrons to operate the JSF will get the F-35A. However the fourth squadron could be equipped with the F-35B with comparative ease, so far as logistics and support is concerned.
The reported plan to train RAAF pilots to fly Super Hornets from USN carriers is interesting in this regard as it could be a way of developing RAAF interest in operating aircraft at sea. My belief is that there is a place for an RAAF squadron to train like a USMC squadron. If the Australian SH squadron is able to actually deploy from an American carrier on an occasional basis it could pave the way for future RAAF F-35B operations from RAN and/or USN LHDs. The plan mentioned in The Australian could be good starting point.
Tas
hi!everybody. i have a confused question concerning this photo:
what's the matter with these sailers socks? Does it has some special meanings?
thanx!!
what's the matter with these sailers socks? Does it has some special meanings?
thanx!!
Also to add that the USN and the French navy has shown the capability of the Rafale to operate from the USN carriers (both trap and launch). I am still not sure if the Hornet is able to land and launch on the DeGaulle though. This even shows a high level of inter-operability between NATO navies.
Those "mixed matched " socks represent a future promption to Cheif Petty Officer(E-7). Which is a giant step for any sailor. This is all part of the inination process.
The FN has the same catapults and arresting gear as the USN. So an Hornet can operate from the FN R-91...
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