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asif iqbal said:

Amazing article in this months Warship magazine March 2013, full of naval updates here's part of the carrier section

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Just can't get enough of seeing and reading the details regarding the Island lift.


It means she is very near to launch, and that will be another huge milestone for the US Navy as the first of the new class of nuclear carrier, the first new class of nuclear carriers for the US Navy in almost 40 years, is launched and in the water!

[video=youtube;B6357gsvAr0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=B6357gsvAr0[/video]Russia to hand over INS Vikramaditya to India in November
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The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier is to be handed over to the Indian Navy in November, 2013, head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Alexander Fomin, said yesterday.
"The ship is to be put in a dock in April, go on sea trials in June and July and be officially handed over some time in November," he said.
The Vikramaditya was originally built as the Soviet Project 1143.4 class aircraft carrier Admiral Gorshkov.
The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over on December 4, 2012, but sea trials in September revealed the ship's boilers were not fully functional.
The Vikramaditya then returned to the shipyard to fix the problems that were detected during the sea trials.
The ship demonstrated excellent seaworthiness, speed of 27.9 knots (about 52 kilometres per hour) and manoeuvrability during the three-month sea trials.
The ship sailed for more than 12,000 miles, with 517 flights performed from its deck by aircraft and helicopters.
Russia's Northern Fleet aviation was involved in the sea trials, aircraft and helicopters flew around and over the ship in order to check its radar, air defence, communication and control systems.
Under a package inter-governmental agreement signed in New Delhi in January 2004, the body of the Admiral Gorshkov was transferred to India for free, subject to its upgrading at Sevmash, a Russian shipbuilding company, and armament with Russian aircraft.
Russia will also train the Indian crew of about 1,500 and create an infrastructure for the ship in the Indian Ocean.
The overall cost of the contract was estimated at $1.5 billion, of which about 974 million were intended for the conversion of the ship into a full-scale aircraft carrier.
The Admiral Gorshkov was built in Nikolayev under the name of Baku and put to service in the Northern Fleet in 1987.
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aksha said:

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Russia will hand over the much-delayed INS Vikramaditya aircraft carrier to India in November, giving the country's navy a strategic advantage in the Indian Ocean region.

The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier is to be handed over to the Indian Navy in November, 2013, head of the Russian Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation, Alexander Fomin, said yesterday.

"The ship is to be put in a dock in April, go on sea trials in June and July and be officially handed over some time in November," he said.

The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over on December 4, 2012, but sea trials in September revealed the ship's boilers were not fully functional.

The Vikramaditya then returned to the shipyard to fix the problems that were detected during the sea trials.
The ship demonstrated excellent seaworthiness, speed of 27.9 knots (about 52 kilometres per hour) and manoeuvrability during the three-month sea trials.

The ship sailed for more than 12,000 miles, with 517 flights performed from its deck by aircraft and helicopters.
Russia's Northern Fleet aviation was involved in the sea trials, aircraft and helicopters flew around and over the ship in order to check its radar, air defence, communication and control systems.

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That's a great and on-topic story about the Vikramaditya...but the video you added at the front of the thread would be better suited on the Indian Military News thread or some other thread about Indian or World-wide submarines.

The Vikramaditya will very quickly come up to speed with its air wing. First, the Indians are experienced in carrier operations and have a much shorter leraning curve in that general areana.

Second, the Mig-29Ks are already delivered to the Indian Navy in some numbers and they are operational aircraft. Their pilots are already trained in them and they will simply have to now come up to speed on carrier opertions with the very airctraft that will make up the wings deployed to the carrier.

It is interesting to see the numbers regarding the 12,000 miles the Virkamaditya sailed last year and the 517 landings and take-offs performed. Those are good numbers for trials.

I believe after November, that very quickly we will see the Virkamaditya performing relatively large scale qualificatione exrcises to gets its already delivered air wing up to speed.

aksha said:

The Vikramaditya aircraft carrier is to be handed over to the Indian Navy in November, 2013.
The Vikramaditya, which is already years past its original 2008 delivery date, was supposed to have been handed over on The overall cost of the contract was estimated at $1.5 billion, of which about 974 million were intended for the

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5 years behind the schedule date of delivery & on triple the price which was estimated $1.5 BN.

Jeff Head said:

I believe after November, that very quickly we will see the Virkamaditya performing relatively large scale qualificatione exrcises to gets its already delivered air wing up to speed.

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This is 5 years delayed project, Jeff.

Jeff Head said:

Just can't get enough of seeing and reading the details regarding the Island lift.

It means she is very near to launch, and that will be another huge milestone for the US Navy as the first of the new class of nuclear carrier, the first new class of nuclear carriers for the US Navy in almost 40 years, is launched and in the water!

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It is expected to launch the Zumwalt and the Ford Class this summer, milestone from all directions if you ask me

Queen Elizabeth is also shaping up nicely

timepass said:

This is 5 years delayed project, Jeff.

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Yes, it is very late and very over priced...but they will have it this fall, and I believe it will work for the Indians and the Mig-29Ks and be a lot more powerful, relevant, and useful than the old Viraat and old Vikrant and their Harriers.

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Eh the worlds most advanced navy's have a great deal to teach some new kids on the block ahem China and India and anyone else

The Royal Navy might not have a designed carrier for best part of 4 decades but Queen Elizabeth is as modern as carriers come

Worlds most powerful marine turbine engine pumping 36MW each, the MT-30 efficient and highly sophisticated, and built by Rolls Royce, things like HMWHS stands for highly mechanised weapons handling system, it will connect live magazines, hanger, weapons prep, flight deck, can move palletised munitions fast and far to point of use

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asif iqbal said:

Eh the worlds most advanced navy's have a great deal to teach some new kids on the block ahem China and India and anyone else

The Royal Navy might not have a designed carrier for best part of 4 decades but Queen Elizabeth is as modern as carriers come

Worlds most powerful marine turbine engine pumping 36MW each, the MT-30 efficient and highly sophisticated, and built by Rolls Royce, things like HMWHS stands for highly mechanised weapons handling system, it will connect live magazines, hanger, weapons prep, flight deck, can move palletised munitions fast and far to point of use

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But the things are much too expensive for a small poor country like the UK.

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delft said:

But the things are much too expensive for a small poor country like the UK.

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Apparently a majority of people in the UK do not think so...and even their more liberal politicians have been forced to concede that having the two of them is critical for their national interests. Otherwise, they would have canceled them altogether...and some tried. They did not have the support to make it happen...thank God.

I believe those two vessels will pay back the UK in spades in terms of benefit to their national interests and the defense of them.

It is going to take some time because of all the wrangling, flip-flopping, and purely political decisions that have been made (which have helped drive up the costs)...but in the end, those carriers and their Daring Class DDGs, Astute Class SSNs, and ultimately the Type 26 FFG escorts, will ensure that the UKs interests are very well defended to a point where very, very few nations, if any, will dare tangle with them over their service lifes...and in the end, that is the whole point.