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asif iqbal

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Some updates on HMS Ocean he help Carrier for the Royal Navy

The £65 million refurb is includes

997 medium range radar system
4 x 30mm automated guns replacing the 20mm
New fire detection system
Defence information infrastructure
New command system
New membrane bio-reactor
Ballast water treatment system
Overhaul living quarters for mess, recreational, cabins and bathrooms as well as laundry and sick bay
1200m of new pipe work with over 100 new pumps and valves
And a new paint job

Source page 32 February 2013 Warship magazine
 

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NORFOLK (NNS) -- The Secretary of Defense delayed the deployment of USS Harry S. Truman and USS Gettysburg Feb. 6. The deployment was originally scheduled for Friday, Feb. 8.

The affected ships have begun formally notifying the men and women of the Harry S. Truman Strike Group (HST CSG) that they will not be deploying.

"Facing budget uncertainty -- including a Continuing Resolution and the looming potential for across-the-board sequestration cuts -- the U.S. Navy made this request to the Secretary and he approved," said Pentagon Press Secretary George Little in a released statement. "This prudent decision enables the U.S. Navy to maintain these ships to deploy on short notice in the event they are needed to respond to national security contingencies," said Pentagon Press Secretary George Little in a released statement.

In order to remain ready and capable to deploy, HST CSG will conduct underway evolutions and maintain proficiency until a future deployment date is announced.

"The United States will continue to maintain a robust military presence in the CENTCOM region, including the current carrier presence and a mix of other assets, to fulfill enduring commitments to our partners. The U.S. military continues to stand ready to respond to any contingency and to confront any threat in the region," said Little.

HST CSG consists of approximately 5,000 Sailors and Marines, including coalition Sailors. Deploying units include Commander, Carrier Strike Group (CCSG) 10; USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75); German frigate FGS Hamburg (F220); guided-missile cruiser USS G*ett*ysburg (CG 64), and 1st Combined Destroyer Squadron.

Carrier Air Wing (CVW) 3 is embarked on board USS Harry S. Truman with its associated squadrons: Strike Fighter Squadron (VFA) 32 "Swordsmen," VFA-37 "Ragin' Bulls," and VFA-105 "Gunslingers," Marine Fighter Attack Squadron (VMFA) 312 "Checkerboards," Airborne Early Warning Squadron (VAW) 126 "Seahawks," Electronic Attack Squadron (VAQ) 130 "Zappers," Helicopter Sea Combat Squadron (HSC) 7 "Dusty Dogs," and Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron (HSM) 74 "Swamp Foxes."

USS Harry S. Truman returned from its last deployment Dec. 2010.

Following its last deployment, USS Harry S. Truman conducted a 16-month docking planned incremental availability from March - July 2011 at Norfolk Naval Shipyard.

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By Mike Hixenbaugh
The Virginian-Pilot
© February 7, 2013

NORFOLK

Sailors aboard the aircraft carrier Harry S. Truman were making final preparations for deployment Wednesday when a breaking news alert spread through the ship.

Local news outlets were reporting that defense officials had canceled their deployment, set to begin in less than 48 hours.

Master Chief Petty Officer Ed Van Vleet, the combat systems maintenance manager aboard the Truman, called his wife and asked whether she had heard anything. The official word came a few minutes later.

“At first, my honest reaction was, ‘Yeah, they’re kidding,’ ” Melissa Van Vleet said. “And once I realized it was for real, of course I was excited that my husband would be staying. But at the same time, you’ve already prepared yourself mentally to get ready for this. It’s just a lot to take in.”

The Truman returned Sunday from a three-week training exercise and was to leave Friday for a six-month deployment to the Persian Gulf.

The sudden change, one result of the budget squeeze in Washington, directly affects some 5,000 sailors and their families. A number of spouses had already flown back to their hometowns to wait out the deployment. Some sailors without family in town had put their cars up on blocks or put their belongings into storage.

The announcement was a relief for married sailors with young children or new babies on the way. But for more seasoned military families, like the Van Vleets, it means a smaller paycheck and less money to pay down debts.

“Don’t get me wrong, there are lots of things about this that makes us happy,” said Melissa Van Vleet, who also served in the Navy. “Our son is a senior, and so now my husband might not have to miss his graduation. That’s wonderful.”

Not everyone was happy.

The carrier Dwight D. Eisenhower was in the Persian Gulf for six months but was brought home in December to have its flight deck resurfaced. Defense officials said the Eisenhower would return to the gulf as planned later this month, while the Truman will remain on standby.

The decision caused outrage among some Eisenhower spouses, who felt it was the Truman’s turn to deploy. The tension spilled out in angry posts on Facebook and other social media sites.

A Navy spokesman said sending the Eisenhower back on a shorter deployment and keeping the Truman at the ready “gives us a larger window of overall carrier readiness.”

“This was about strategy, not picking favorites,” the spokesman said.
 
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Kinda like I said when all those carriers were lined up, this ain't good, 2 days before she sails, that is forward thinking at its best, just wait, with this team on the field, you ain't seen nuthin yet? Wow!
 

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They start cutting deployments..,.particularly to the Persian Gulf with the Iran situation continuing...if they decide they do not need to deploy for that...then IMHO it will not be long before this crew in this admin will decide they don't need as many CSGs after all and we will see them push for more cuts. While I was growingh up, there were always 14. Then it was 12. Now it is 11. These goys will make a run at getting it down below 10.
 

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Kinda like I said when all those carriers were lined up, this ain't good

Where were they supposed to be AFB? they weren't deployed..so it makes sense they would be in their homeport enjoying the Christmas holiday.

Gents, the USN for many years had only one CV(N) deployed to the Gulf region..not counting the CV(N) permanently deployed to WESTPAC and based in Japan. But of course many times two.

So if you want to see how CVN's have been deployed over the last few years or the last 60 years or so check this unofficial website. this page is totally unofficial. It is about 85% to 90% accurate. He missed a lot of port dates etc..etc..

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..by the way I was very surprised by the cancellation of CVN-75 deployment. very unexpected.
 

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Where were they supposed to be AFB? they weren't deployed..so it makes sense they would be in their homeport enjoying the Christmas holiday.

Gents, the USN for many years had only one CV(N) deployed to the Gulf region..not counting the CV(N) permanently deployed to WESTPAC and based in Japan. But of course many times two.

So if you want to see how CVN's have been deployed over the last few years or the last 60 years or so check this unofficial website. this page is totally unofficial. It is about 85% to 90% accurate. He missed a lot of port dates etc..etc..

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..by the way I was very surprised by the cancellation of CVN-75 deployment. very unexpected.


I'm sure it's good news for the family for the service members for the cancellation deployment. But wouldn't they missed out on a chance for hazardous duty payment? I think this is just a temporary delay until the budget debate gets sorted out in Capital Hill and than the ship will be back in business.
 

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I'm sure it's good news for the family for the service members for the cancellation deployment. But wouldn't they missed out on a chance for hazardous duty payment? I think this is just a temporary delay until the budget debate gets sorted out in Capital Hill and than the ship will be back in business.

I'm sure there is an element of brinksmanship here gentlemen, somebody is sending a message, and this crew is always sending about 12 messages, one for each of the 12 tribes. They CANCELLED the F-22, thats like drydocking the Ford class because they're too expensive, too complicated, we've never had to use them in combat and falling back on the Nimitz class. Now I'm not blaming the BHO team for the F-22, that was the Pentagon crew under, GWB, the Army, Navy, Marine, crew putting one on the AF team. The F-35 is now the most expensive weapons system ever purchased by the DOD, it is not as capable A2A as the F-22, but it is the source of a lot more pork, for a lot more politicians here and abroad.

This kind of defense department thinking and planning, will result in a real world reduction in capability that emboldens our enemies and strikes fear in the heart of our friends, [if we have any of those left?]. Now to those so emboldened, it does not mean that we won't find you, and when we do the results will be the same, [what would you like on your headstone?], how about, we thought they were impotent???? but you get my point. This kind of impotent civilian leadership of our military, presents even more frightening scenarios within our own government, and no, we don't need or want drones monitoring our civilian population, but it does point out the need for a much more competant, vigilant, constitutionally pure leadership??? willing to restore the republic to her former glory. AFB
 

asif iqbal

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Ok not sure where to add this but it's all USN update from Warship magazine February 2013 page 3

For 2013 US defence bill is $633 billion which includes $88 billion for war funds

Of this $170 billion is for the Navy which benefits the most under the new funding, congress approved all 10 new ships

One Ford class nuclear powered carrier
Two Arleigh Bruke class destroyer
Two Virginia class attack submarines
Four Littoral combat ships
And one joint high speed transport

All of which will be built in 2013 alone

4 Ticos were to be decommissioned in 2013 which was blocked by congress and only 1 will be retired, that is USS Port Royal

The current size of the navy will be almost 285 frontline ships, however amphibious ship numbers are at 33 but 38 are required

Also a question I have been asking for a while has been answered, that is how many SSBN will replace the 14 Ohio Class submarines and the answer is 12 with the first to be commissioned in 2031 with the cost of each SSBN to be $6 billion

The congress has also been authorised to buy more Arleigh Burke and Virginia Class in batches saving on unit cost

More update on the aviation tomorrow
 

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$170 billion is for the Navy which benefits the most under the new funding, congress approved all 10 new ships

One Ford class nuclear powered carrier
Two Arleigh Bruke class destroyer
Two Virginia class attack submarines
Four Littoral combat ships
And one joint high speed transport

All of which will be built in 2013 alone

4 Ticos were to be decommissioned in 2013 which was blocked by congress and only 1 will be retired, that is USS Port Royal
The Ford Class carrier approved will take 5-6 years to build and put in service. The Burkes and Virginaias will not be built and launched in the same year, much less commissioned. They will get in the pipeline and may start building this year. Same for the LCS, they are already building two of those vessels with another each on order and these will line up with what has already been approved and started.

This year, based on what has already been approved and is already in the pipeline, we will see the US Navy launch thefollowing in 2013:

1 Ford Class Carrier
1 Zumwalt Class DDG
1 or 2 Burke Flight IIA Class DDGs
1 or 2 Viginia Class SSNs
2-3 LCS Class (1 from one type and two from the other)
1 High Speed Transport

Now, that is what will pop out, but those vessels, which are already under construction have already had their funds long since approved and set aside.

The 2013 budget that has been approved will be for vessels to fill in that pipeline behind these vessels...and maybe, in some cases, behind the vessels already coming in. For example, the John F. Kennedy Ford Class has been approved and this funding may be advance approval for the Enterprise (#3 Ford Class), or it may just be the listing of expenditures which were already approved, which will be outlayed in 2013.

We just have to know what the "approvals" mean. Usually it is for future ships that will feed the pipeline and fill in behind what has already been approved and allocated.
 

asif iqbal

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yes correct it said they will start this year, certainly not commissioned, if i get time i will scan and post the article

and yes i knew the article made no mention of the Zumwalt Class DDG, maybe because the funding for that was put through last year!? same for the America Class LHD

but i was amazed at the price tag for the new generation SSBN to replace the Ohio Class, $6 billion a piece, thats in excess of $70, Royal Navy has put aside £15-20 billion for replacement for thier 4 Vanguard Class, thats about $8 billion per submarine, SSBN are just too expensive, more than carriers in some ways
 
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