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Air Force Brat

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Tractors offer that extra grip!!:p

Tractors are Cheap, and a little high off the deck, and the barred tires would offer less grip than the tug, which has flat tires without tread more like a fork lift, sits lower where you can see under the aircraft as you move it, and is probably heavier with a lower cg, the tug is way better, but a lot more money IMHO.
 

bd popeye

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Back in WWII the USN and other navies used tractors as picture to move aircraft.

The USN has been using the type tow "tractor" it uses now for 50+ years. I see the Chinese have followed suit. One of the reasons for using this type vehicle is that on a crowded flight deck it is more easily driven through the spotted aircraft because it is so low. Try to drive the tractor pictured under the nose of a Hornet....not going to work.
 

SteelBird

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And just when I thought we at SDF won't care about such trivial things...

I think this is more than trivial. Using tractors which were designed to work on farms on an aircraft carrier is just like using IED in a modern battle field. What does this indicate? Your fleet is not professional. You're unable to design and make your own tug. You don't even have enough $$$ to buy a tug, why bothering operate an aircraft carrier? As I stated before "Aircraft carriers are not for slum dog government".
 

MwRYum

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I think this is more than trivial. Using tractors which were designed to work on farms on an aircraft carrier is just like using IED in a modern battle field. What does this indicate? Your fleet is not professional. You're unable to design and make your own tug. You don't even have enough $$$ to buy a tug, why bothering operate an aircraft carrier? As I stated before "Aircraft carriers are not for slum dog government".

Well, an aircraft tug isn't that complicated as far as vehicle designs goes, think that's not something beyond Tata's capability to design and build (or license a foreign model and build), and that's chunk change when consider how much India spend annually on defense, kinda hard to believe they go skimpy on this.
 

antiterror13

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At this point I do not think the PLAN wants the Asturia.

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I am struggling trying to think of someone who could be interested. At the right price, prehaps the Thais, to go along with their similar in class vessel. But they can not even afford to train up and operate their own carrier as it is, so though it would seem logical for them...I think that is very far fetched to think they would...or even could.

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I think Indonesian navy may be interested and they have $$$ and it may suit them
 

bd popeye

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SECNAV Ray Mabus today in a video message has named CVN-80 ENTERPRISE

.....ENTERPRISE.. you damn skippy!

I cannot describe how I feel about this.. It's just awesome!..watch the Video.

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bd popeye

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^^^ Now that is funny.. we may get an seismograph reading from Idaho! I know there was one here in Iowa:)

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NORFOLK (NNS) -- Nearly 12,000 past and current crewmembers, family and friends attended the inactivation of aircraft carrier USS Enterprise (CVN 65) Dec. 1, 2012, at Naval Station Norfolk, Va.

Enterprise, the world's first nuclear powered aircraft carrier, recently completed its 25th and final deployment and returned to its homeport of Naval Station Norfolk for a scheduled inactivation, held prior to the ship's terminal offload program and subsequent decommissioning.

The inactivation ceremony was the last official public event for the ship, and served as a celebration of life for the ship and the more than 100,000 Sailors who served aboard.

The Chief of Naval Operations, the Commander of United States Fleet Forces, nine of twenty-three prior commanding officers, many decorated war heroes, and thousands of Enterprise veterans attended the event.

"Enterprise is a special ship and crew, and it was special long before I got here" said Captain William C. Hamilton, Jr., the twenty-third and final commanding officer, during the ceremony.

"Before I took command of this ship, I learned the definition of 'enterprise', which is 'an especially daring and courageous undertaking driven by a bold and adventurous spirit.' Fifty-one years ago, this ship was every bit of that definition."

"Here we are 51 years later," he continued, "celebrating the astonishing successes and accomplishments of this engineering marvel that has roamed the seas for more than half the history of Naval Aviation. Daring, courageous, bold, and adventurous indeed."

In honor of that spirit, Secretary of the Navy Ray Mabus, in a video message played at the ceremony, announced that the name Enterprise will live on as the officially passed the name to CVN-80, the third Ford class carrier and the ninth ship in the U.S. Navy to bear the name.

Commissioned on November 25, 1961, the eighth ship to bear the illustrious name Enterprise, the "Big E" was the world's first nuclear-powered aircraft carrier.

A veteran of 25 deployments to the Mediterranean Sea, Pacific Ocean, and the Middle East, Enterprise has served in nearly every major conflict to take place during her history. From the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 to six deployments in support of the Vietnam conflict through the Cold War and the Gulf Wars, Enterprise was there. On September 11, 2001, Enterprise aborted her transit home from a long deployment after the terrorist attacks, and steamed overnight to the North Arabian Sea. Big 'E' once again took her place in history when she launched the first strikes in direct support of Operation Enduring Freedom.

More than 100,000 Sailors and Marines have served aboard Enterprise during its lifetime, which has included every major conflict since the Cuban Missile Crisis. It has been home ported in both Alameda, Calif., and Norfolk, Va., and has conducted operations in every region of the world.

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