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aksha

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Re: Great video of Mig-29K Air Ops on INS Virkamaditya

[video=youtube;YeMjd1jpR1Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeMjd1jpR1Q&feature=player_detailpage[/video][video=youtube;6ycCyvCYp5I]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ycCyvCYp5I&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
 
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aksha

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Re: Does india really need aircraft carriers

[video=youtube;UoDJWD9M7DA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoDJWD9M7DA&feature=player_detailpage[/video][video=youtube;nIow8efNovY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIow8efNovY&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
 
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aksha

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Re: Great video of Mig-29K Air Ops on INS Virkamaditya

[video=youtube;98mBJnp1zlQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98mBJnp1zlQ&feature=player_detailpage[/video][video=youtube;rnGh_g7xYtw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnGh_g7xYtw&feature=player_detailpage[/video]
 
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NikeX

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Re: Great video of Mig-29K Air Ops on INS Virkamaditya

Did you even READ what I typed??? I said it is NOT a Chinese design. I said that China is able to produce this jet 100% on their own without have to need to relies on any other nations. Which makes huge difference in war time when it come to repair and spare parts.

Oh and just because it is not an original Chinese design, does not make it less effective in combat, so I'll say again. If you want to complain China stealing other people's technology, go post somewhere else. There is a whole world for you to complain about.

Fact is J-15 is 100% PRODUCED within China, you got a problem with that fact?

You seem to be quite sensitive to me posing questions to you. Well don't be. I am only attempting to clarify a couple of points you mentioned in your post. In any event lets cool out the rancor and advance the discussion like reasonable people.
 

NikeX

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Re: Great video of Mig-29K Air Ops on INS Virkamaditya

@aksha: Just looking at the LCA Tejas I would say that it will fill the role in the Indian Navy that the A-4 Skyhawk filled in the American navy, light attack and strike
 

nemo

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Re: Does india really need aircraft carriers

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INS Vikramaditya Trial Malfunctions to Delay Handover
© RIA Novosti. Sergey Safronov
08:37 17/09/2012
MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti)
Tags: Vikramaditya, Russia, India

Malfunctions detected during trials of Indian Navy aircraft carrier Vikramaditya will delay the vessel’s handover to India, the Kommersant business daily reported on Monday.

The Vikramaditya, formerly the Russian Navy's Admiral Gorshkov, is to be handed over to India after ongoing sea trials following a much-delayed refit. According to the latest agreements, it was to have been handed over on December 4, but the deadline has been postponed again until October 2013.

The problems started when the vessel tried to gain maximum speed.

“Seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery were out of order,” an official told Kommersant.

The official, who prepared the Vikramaditya for sea trials, said the reason for the boilers’ failure was that India refused to use asbestos as a means to protect the boilers from heat, fearing that the material was dangerous for the crew.

He said the boilers’ designer had to use firebrick, which proved not sufficiently heatproof, the official said.
 

MwRYum

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Re: Does india really need aircraft carriers

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INS Vikramaditya Trial Malfunctions to Delay Handover
© RIA Novosti. Sergey Safronov
08:37 17/09/2012
MOSCOW, September 17 (RIA Novosti)
Tags: Vikramaditya, Russia, India

Malfunctions detected during trials of Indian Navy aircraft carrier Vikramaditya will delay the vessel’s handover to India, the Kommersant business daily reported on Monday.

The Vikramaditya, formerly the Russian Navy's Admiral Gorshkov, is to be handed over to India after ongoing sea trials following a much-delayed refit. According to the latest agreements, it was to have been handed over on December 4, but the deadline has been postponed again until October 2013.

The problems started when the vessel tried to gain maximum speed.

“Seven out of eight steam boilers of the propulsion machinery were out of order,” an official told Kommersant.

The official, who prepared the Vikramaditya for sea trials, said the reason for the boilers’ failure was that India refused to use asbestos as a means to protect the boilers from heat, fearing that the material was dangerous for the crew.

He said the boilers’ designer had to use firebrick, which proved not sufficiently heatproof, the official said.

Firebrick that's not sufficiently heatproof...what on Earth were they thinking, or what kind of funny grass they were smoking?

Anyway, probably the only edge that India's carrier programme can claim against China would be they've their first locally-built carrier hull while China still have yet done theirs...or the MiG29K is in production while J-15 is yet to be finalized.
 

navyreco

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Another continuing resolution (CR) will keep funding most of the government’s operations, but the six-month stopgap measure passed by the House on Sept. 13 could leave some of the U.S. Navy’s shipbuilding programs high and dry.

The fleet’s aircraft carrier programs are most at risk, a top Navy official said, and submarine and destroyer construction efforts could be affected as well.

Most acutely, work to refit and refuel the nuclear carrier Theodore Roosevelt could come to a halt only months before the ship is to return to service.
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bd popeye

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^^^ IMO ..not going to happen. the next congress will get this funding corrected. They have to. This Federal Government funding has been an ongoing problem for many years.

congress passed this stop gap measure to pass the buck to the next session to congress. The congress wants to work on their re-election.. They do it eveytime.
 

NikeX

Banned Idiot
Re: Does india really need aircraft carriers

Firebrick that's not sufficiently heatproof...what on Earth were they thinking, or what kind of funny grass they were smoking?

Anyway, probably the only edge that India's carrier programme can claim against China would be they've their first locally-built carrier hull while China still have yet done theirs...or the MiG29K is in production while J-15 is yet to be finalized.

Russian shipbuilding is backwards. Them using firebrick as an insulator should surprise no-one
 
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