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KYli

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Yup! However, for me the best message she brings is, when she is in China, she feels Chinese; when she is in America, she feels American. Taking away all the geopolitical crap, I think this is the mentality all of the overseas Chinese should have. We need to be proud of our heritage, but also we need to appreciate the land that raised us. Which ever one we chose to represent should be down to the individual, but being given the option to embrace both and contribute positively to both should be encouraged, and we shouldn't be forced to chose sides. As long as China demonstrate it on its side, then there will be many people flocking back, regardless of what the other government does. (Kinda like the guy in warring states buying the horse skelton to attract talents.)
For most of us who were born in China or Hong Kong or Taiwan, it doesn't really matter much. We contribute, we live, and we make our choices. As for second generation Chinese, most of them would grow up hating China or themselves.

As a person who was born in China and grow up in both Hong Kong and the US, I can say for sure that majority of second and third generation Chinese in the West would end up hating China or hating themselves. Just look at the youngsters in Hong Kong and Taiwan, they can't be reasoned with after drinking so much Kool-Aid.

What you said is the ideal world? But the world is far from ideal. We can hope but it is not 90s and 00s anymore when the West is confident and proud and China is weak. There is so much hate, resentment, jealousy anything China and Chinese now that we would be fooling ourselves to think these youngsters would have a choice. Maybe for a few who were raised, taught well, and smart but most don't. For them, they would live in a world that constantly demanding they show their loyalty towards the West and hatred towards China.
 
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Godzilla

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For most of us who were born in China or Hong Kong or Taiwan, it doesn't really matter much. We contribute, we live, and we make our choices. As for second generation Chinese, most of them would grow up hating China or themselves.

As a person who was born in China and grow up in both Hong Kong and the US, I can say for sure that majority of second and third generation Chinese in the West would end up hating China or hating themselves. Just look at the youngsters in Hong Kong and Taiwan, they can't be reasoned with after drinking so much Kool-Aid.

What you said is the ideal world? But the world is far from ideal. We can hope but it is not 90s and 00s anymore when the West is confident and proud and China is weak. There is so much hate, resentment, jealousy anything China and Chinese now that we would be fooling ourselves to think these youngsters would have a choice. Maybe for a few who were raised, taught well, and smart but most don't. For them, they would live in a world that constantly demanding they show their loyalty towards the West and hatred towards China.
Gotta agree with you there. The 2nd gen guys consumes what the media feed them and some of them have a pretty toxic mentality.

But here lies my point also. Back when the west is confident and proud, and there remains some pockets of people with that mentality, they still respect meritocracy. When you have proven your worth with your competence in your field, you are one of us, regardless of race and back ground. Nowadays, with all these toxic hatred, no matter how good a dog you become, black hair black eyes will still bring you suspicion and a glass ceiling to boot. Most of them won't know it because they are ordinary folks going about their lives, but once you reach a certain level where your skills and competency and desire for success reach a certain level, that divide becomes more and more clear. China would be eyeing those talented individuals, and if they can maintain ties with the life they had lead, but also remove the glass ceiling and racial barriers then its a fantastic option to return to China.

As long as the door remain open in China for these kind of people, then its a win. No point getting people who doesn't want to be there. Letting in overseas Chinese who hate China don't do much harm either since more often than not they get ridiculed especially those kinda personality and mentality. They will probably end up like the hongkies that went to UK in the past year.
 

ansy1968

Brigadier
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For most of us who were born in China or Hong Kong or Taiwan, it doesn't really matter much. We contribute, we live, and we make our choices. As for second generation Chinese, most of them would grow up hating China or themselves.

As a person who was born in China and grow up in both Hong Kong and the US, I can say for sure that majority of second and third generation Chinese in the West would end up hating China or hating themselves. Just look at the youngsters in Hong Kong and Taiwan, they can't be reasoned with after drinking so much Kool-Aid.

What you said is the ideal world? But the world is far from ideal. We can hope but it is not 90s and 00s anymore when the West is confident and proud and China is weak. There is so much hate, resentment, jealousy anything China and Chinese now that we would be fooling ourselves to think these youngsters would have a choice. Maybe for a few who were raised, taught well, and smart but most don't. For them, they would live in a world that constantly demanding they show their loyalty towards the West and hatred towards China.
@KYli BRO it depends, me a first generation Hua Qiao grew up when China was so weak, the temptation of American Kool Aid was so great because it taste so good and the Chinese tea taste bitter, As China grew the tea morphed into Milk Tea so my children taste had evolve as the American Kool Aid had become saltier. It's up to us Chinese parents to guide the next generation and it is here the problem evolves, our generation 70's had strong US influence and those who oppose had been marginalized and discriminated, I'm one of them BUT it helps build one's character cause my roots (family influence) is strong. Now my job is to teach my Children and their generation the value of being Chinese, it's a painstaking job BUT it's our mission and the reason why the Chinese 5,000 years culture endured.
 

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Well, since the 2022 Beijing Winter Olympics was so successful, it would unavoidably trigger some meltdowns in the US:

I didn't know Bill Maher is such a hypocrite. I will not watch his sh*t-hole talk show again.
 

Fedupwithlies

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For most of us who were born in China or Hong Kong or Taiwan, it doesn't really matter much. We contribute, we live, and we make our choices. As for second generation Chinese, most of them would grow up hating China or themselves.

As a person who was born in China and grow up in both Hong Kong and the US, I can say for sure that majority of second and third generation Chinese in the West would end up hating China or hating themselves. Just look at the youngsters in Hong Kong and Taiwan, they can't be reasoned with after drinking so much Kool-Aid.

What you said is the ideal world? But the world is far from ideal. We can hope but it is not 90s and 00s anymore when the West is confident and proud and China is weak. There is so much hate, resentment, jealousy anything China and Chinese now that we would be fooling ourselves to think these youngsters would have a choice. Maybe for a few who were raised, taught well, and smart but most don't. For them, they would live in a world that constantly demanding they show their loyalty towards the West and hatred towards China.

I don't think so. I think 2nd generation and 3rd generation Chinese in the west are becoming more and more pro-China.
Even the native kids are becoming more socialist. The narrative in gen z circles isn't "Oh China's committing genocide", its "Oh the CIA is claiming China's committing genocide to make Communism look bad."

Thats a huge improvement.
 

9dashline

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daifo

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I don't think so. I think 2nd generation and 3rd generation Chinese in the west are becoming more and more pro-China.
Even the native kids are becoming more socialist. The narrative in gen z circles isn't "Oh China's committing genocide", its "Oh the CIA is claiming China's committing genocide to make Communism look bad."

Thats a huge improvement.

I think mid age Hong Kongers, Chinese Viets and Taiwanese offsprings tend to still feel the need to be feel superior to the Mainlanders. The former Mainlanders seem to be pro-china or at least neutral or balanced.
 

ansy1968

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I don't think so. I think 2nd generation and 3rd generation Chinese in the west are becoming more and more pro-China.
Even the native kids are becoming more socialist. The narrative in gen z circles isn't "Oh China's committing genocide", its "Oh the CIA is claiming China's committing genocide to make Communism look bad."

Thats a huge improvement.
@Fedupwithlies bro which drinks do you prefer American Kool Aid or Chinese Milk Tea? My taste had evolve and my Children think that American Kool Aid taste funny and only old geezer like me drink it....lol
 

ansy1968

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I think mid age Hong Kongers, Chinese Viets and Taiwanese offsprings tend to still feel the need to be feel superior to the Mainlanders. The former Mainlanders seem to be pro-china or at least neutral or balanced.
@daifo so true bro so true, I'm mid age and I going to tell you a secret, most of them are bullies and bullies when confronted with fact are the most vicious and underhanded, cause their Raison d'etre had been shattered, and their hubris had been exposed....lol So the noisier they got the more embarrassment they received, so why stop them. :cool:
 
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