2022 Olympic Winter Games Beijing

B.I.B.

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No matter how you look at it, the US had a really poor showing at this Olympics.
There's a link to an article somewhere in the last six pages putting the decline to cost and the elitism of the sport. The writer says the evidence lies in the fact that the U.S has been lacking in world class juniors coming through.
 

Helius

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Are the DPP trolls going to cyber bully this pretty Dutch silver medalist next?

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Why stop at Chinese jersey-wearing athletes? Blast anyone who dared to step foot in China and play Chinese copycat Olympics.

Yeah, that's right. The Beijing Olympics are fake Olympics with poor quality venues built by forced labour.

That big ugly panda thing killed 2,000,000 Uyghurs.
 

Godzilla

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Given the geopolitical environment in the U.S.? Yikes. I don't care who she represents but hopefully she stays safe while studying a

Hearing some chatter within China the government and by extension Chinese media will distance themselves from Eileen Gu post this Olympics, similar to a Kawhi Leonard for Toronto Raptors kind of deal. At the end of the day she's returning to Stanford and won't be giving up her US citizenship, and her legality will always be an issue. She has just under 2 yrs left on her Chinese travel permit before she needs to formally decide, so a lot can happen in the meantime. I hope it's not the case case and she fully returns, but bookmarking this just in case.
If that is what the Chinese government is going to do, then it is awesome. She is just a 18 year old kid enjoying life, by taking a step back and not using her as a propaganda tool, it definitely help win not only her heart and mind, but thousands of others like her who wants to go back to develop but also love the place which they grew up in. Kinda makes a polar contrast to what the western media are doing! The next Olympics is 4 years away and she will have graduated by then.

If the Chinese consulate at Los Angeles can't convince you, then what I say is irrelevant. US born Chinese children can only obtain travel document if only at least one of their parents don't have green cards. Otherwise, these kids can only obtain visa.

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  以下中国公民所生儿童如回中国,应申请中华人民共和国旅行证:

  (一)在美国出生、父母双方为中国公民,且在儿童出生时父母双方均未取得美国或其他国家永久居留资格(如美国“绿卡”)的儿童;

(二)在美国出生、父母一方为中国公民、一方为外国公民,且在儿童出生时父母中的中国公民未取得美国或其他国家永久居留资格(如美国“绿卡”)的儿童;

  (三)在中国出生、父母一方为中国公民(另一方为美国公民)的儿童。

  不符合上述条件的中国公民所生儿童前往中国应
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  》旅行证办理因个案不同而办理时间可能较长。请注意,在未持有效旅行证前,不应事先购买机票。由此引起的责任应自行承担
Hmm, my friend's kid was born around the time his wife got residency visa, the kid has both passport and was told they can chose to keep the Chinese one or give it up when they turn 18 (or 12 I can't remember). They only said they wouldn't recognize the other passport. I had some professional advice regarding this 2 years ago when shopping around for a nationality for my kid. It was pre Covid and there was quite a few locations he could have been born at. I remember the advice we got if he was born in China was that he wouldn't be forced to give up the other passport, but it wouldn't be recognized. Thats why we settled for a HK SAR passport lol..

Except for the high profile people like Eileen Gu, for the most of us, the only problem with this arrangement is double taxation. US taxes you on everything you make globally, I think China does too after the recent tax reforms. Imagine getting wacked twice. There are of course work arounds but yeah, plenty of ways both sides will make your life miserable..
 

HeiTangSeng

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Except for the high profile people like Eileen Gu, for the most of us, the only problem with this arrangement is double taxation. US taxes you on everything you make globally, I think China does too after the recent tax reforms. Imagine getting wacked twice. There are of course work arounds but yeah, plenty of ways both sides will make your life miserable..

There's a tax equalization agreement between China and US. You're wacked about 1.x times in reality. But it's quite complicated (and getting more so as China starts to take away privileges) which means Ernst and Young etc. will be able to wack you too. Overall, not that bad.

Edit: If you are a Chinese citizen earning US income in the States, China hasn't got the time to track you down yet. But if you're US citizen raking it in China, you'd better come clean.
 

B.I.B.

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I The next Olympics is 4 years away and she will have graduated by then.
Just wondering, when one competes in the World Championships in ones' chosen sport, is it done as an individual or a representative of your country? In gymnastics, it seems one is competing for ones' country. If the world Championships in skiing are at country rep level, then would the question be asked of Eileen in a couple yrs time?
 
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Godzilla

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There's a tax equalization agreement between China and US. You're wacked about 1.x times in reality. But it's quite complicated (and getting more so as China starts to take away privileges) which means Ernst and Young etc. will be able to wack you too. Overall, not that bad.

Edit: If you are a Chinese citizen earning US income in the States, China hasn't got the time to track you down yet. But if you're US citizen raking it in China, you'd better come clean.
Hmm. Not sure if it is in practice. In 2020 I was technically a Chinese tax resident, so my US income on the 1042-S was taxed at 30%. In 2021 I was technically a Australian tax resident, my 1042-S US income was taxed at 15%. Both China and Australia have tax agreements with the US but kind of complicated...
I don't think the US knows what you make in China, that was one of the road blocks I believe, the data sharing.
 
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