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KYli

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I have replied them and actually repeated the replies many times. My answers were that (I repeat) "the baby born in US has Chinese citizenship by birth, their US citizenships are void as far as China concerns". So all other statements in your posts are irrelevant.

You can keep your opinion disagreeing with my replies. But I don't think that you can call my replies as ignoring you. You can go back a page or two to find them.
4、美宝到底需不需要选国籍?


严格来讲,并没有所谓选择国籍这个明确的操作,如果不进行人为干预,孩子终身拥有美国籍,中国国籍则在18岁时自动消失。


这也许就是大家相传的“选国籍”的由来吧。中国籍到底是怎么消失的呢,按照中国国籍法,孩子年满十八岁时,中国籍自动丧失,因为到十八岁就意味孩子有自主选择国籍的权利
Show me the text of that law. I can not find anything about "obtaining Chinese passport" nor "Chinese travel document" in the law.
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You can talk to all those babies that were born in the US who can only get travel document not passport for the Chinese consulate in the US.
A person resides in Taiwan can not obtain a Chinese (PRC) passport, but instead being issued a "Taiwan compatriot certificate" as a travel document to enter mainland. That paper does not in any way deny the person being a Chinese citizen, same logic as the "American babies' travel document.


Irrelevant as IMO the people we are talking about do not have foreign citizenship.
I said this before, so don't call me ignoring you.

These babies do NOT have foreign citizenships as far as China conerns. Those "citizenships" are void and null.
I said this before, so don't call me ignoring you.

This is irrelevant because the people we are talking about (born abroad) did NOT acquire Chinese citizenship in the middle of their life. They had that from their birth.
I said this before in response to your quotation of article 9, so don't call me ignoring.
As long as he/she can get the government to issue the travel document, then yes he/she is still Chinese citizens. Let me repeat again China temporary doesn't take their foreign citizenships into consideration. That doesn't mean the law won't catch up with them. After 18 years old, they are adult and need to make a decision.

It doesn't matter. Chinese law is very clear you can't have foreign citizenship period. Chinese government knew that these children have foreign citizenships so after 18 years old they need to make a choice.
 

taxiya

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Registered Member
I not only read it from Zhihu but many other various sources. I just don't have the time to find them for you. If you have any problem with Zhihu just type 美宝 and you would get your answer.


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4、美宝到底需不需要选国籍?


严格来讲,并没有所谓选择国籍这个明确的操作,如果不进行人为干预,孩子终身拥有美国籍,中国国籍则在18岁时自动消失。


这也许就是大家相传的“选国籍”的由来吧。中国籍到底是怎么消失的呢,按照中国国籍法,孩子年满十八岁时,中国籍自动丧失,因为到十八岁就意味孩子有自主选择国籍的权利。
First of all, the above makes two points.
1. There is no citizenship choosing. (严格来讲,并没有所谓选择国籍这个明确的操作)
I believe you agree with this. This is what I have been saying, is it?

2. Chinese citizenship is lost after age 18 automatically. (按照中国国籍法,孩子年满十八岁时,中国籍自动丧失)
This is your point and fundation of all our disagreement, right?

The poster of the quoted texts stated "according to Chinese Nationality Law". But it is only "according to personal interpretation of the Chinese Nationality Law". Do you agree? Otherwise you need to quote the legal text saying such things from here
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To conclude,
  1. I agree that you make different interpretation than me.
  2. Neither of us can agree with eath other.
  3. Neither of us can convince the other.
  4. Both of us have answered each other's argument multiple times.
  5. It won't make any difference to continue and it is time to stop.

This will be my last reply unless you find the legal tesxt I requested above.
 

HeiTangSeng

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Registered Member
IMHO, the discussion of Gu's Chinese citizenship is beside the point.

The major victory for China in her case is that any overseas Chinese with skills will find bigger success and higher returns in China. Even in direct competition with USA. Now everybody can follow the trail Eileen had blazed for them.
 

KYli

Brigadier
If the Chinese consulate at Los Angeles can't convince you, then what I say is irrelevant. US born Chinese children can only obtain travel document if only at least one of their parents don't have green cards. Otherwise, these kids can only obtain visa.

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【适用情形】 

  以下中国公民所生儿童如回中国,应申请中华人民共和国旅行证:

  (一)在美国出生、父母双方为中国公民,且在儿童出生时父母双方均未取得美国或其他国家永久居留资格(如美国“绿卡”)的儿童;

(二)在美国出生、父母一方为中国公民、一方为外国公民,且在儿童出生时父母中的中国公民未取得美国或其他国家永久居留资格(如美国“绿卡”)的儿童;

  (三)在中国出生、父母一方为中国公民(另一方为美国公民)的儿童。

  不符合上述条件的中国公民所生儿童前往中国应
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  》旅行证办理因个案不同而办理时间可能较长。请注意,在未持有效旅行证前,不应事先购买机票。由此引起的责任应自行承担
 
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