2020/2021 Tokyo Summer Olympics
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manqiangrexue
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Why didn't you think she could win? Are you familiar with cycling?
Now the golds are tied and the US wins by silver count. The only way China can win now is if our boxer comes through and the US fails in both its boxing matches and the women's volleyball.
No. Just no. I know weightlifting. Right now is the most dominant that China has ever been been and it's basically that way because China made the weight class adjustment faster. When other countries catch up, China will have some more serious competition. Also, major competitors like Russia and Kazakhstan are crippled by doping scandals now so when they recover, they will challenge China again. China usually wins 5 golds with 10 athletes so 7 gold with 8 athletes is our best score ever. It's not getting any better than this. China is like 50kg short in the men's superheavy and we have a rare heavyweight who can snatch but he can't clean and jerk so he'll be up by 2kg in the snatch then get smoked by 15 kg in the clean and jerk. For the women's, Chinese Taipei has a rare talent holding down the 59kg class and then for the other ones, North Korea can compete sometimes, is dominant in the -76kg, but chose not to enter this Olympic cycle. This is as good as it gets. More money = more golds isn't a true formula for everything. I'm not giving you generic feels; I know the best weightlifters of every country and there is no way in MFing hell that China could have taken more than 11 golds this year even without quotas.
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Swimming is the way to go imo. Winning takes golds away from US and all it takes is one or two really genetically gifted individuals to dominate the field. Just bring a pool into every high school with swim teams like the US and you will see the gifted ones come out.
They used to have Ning Zetao and Sun yang in freestyle swimming.
I think China taking up a Japanese martial art en masse for the sake of winning some Olympic medals is too humiliating. They'd be better off promoting Mixed Martial Arts, which would give way more international prestige if they could produce UFC champions, and MMA has exploded in popularity so much that it will probably find itself in the Olympics at some point anyway.
Not sure what you keep arguing for. Just like Beijing Olympics, more resources and talents produce more golds. Of course, it won't happen overnight but a few years down the road China can dominate 11-12 events.
manqiangrexue
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I'm just saying, I know the in and outs of weightlifting and that doesn't compute. China already spends a lot of resources raising thousands of weightlifters who will never see the podium in order to get this cream of the crop. We are far beyond the initial diminishing returns and plowing more into the sport is not likely to do much. There's no point arguing about what's possible in how many years but I cannot forsee 12/14 events happening. Just generically saying that more resources and talent is more gold is like saying we should go all in and win every Olympic event. So can the US, right? We should avoid generic statements and stick to commenting on the sports we are familiar with. That's the only way to provide real valuable insight. For example, if someone says he watches every boxing match with a passion and knows that the Uzbek outclasses his American opponent like an adult fighting a child because they have fought 5 matches with 5 first round KO's in favor of the Uzbek, that's real valuable insight. If someone says the US should invest more money to win more boxing matches, that's worthless generic crap. So don't argue with me on weightlifting. I know weightlifting.
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It looks like the US will finish on top. 38 golds is very good and finished well ahead of Japan on their home turf. Swimming and athletics is the difference in the end. Athletics has many countries that can beat the US but in swimming it is only Australia that can beat the US consistently across multiple events.
I think China should focus on developing quality athletes in popular sports like football, tennis, athletics, swimming etc. Investment in these sports will attract more eyeballs and good PR and goodwill for nation as well. Quantity of medals count nothing after 1 week of completion of olympics. Most people don’t even care about diving, TT, weightlifting. Even a bench player in football is more popular than multiple gold medle in TT. I remember XI is huge fan of football and China have huge plans to be a good footballing nation.