2014 Ukrainian Maidan Revolt: News, Views, Photos & Videos
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Also from the BBC site: Updated at 18:34 GMT
I understand from this that the BBC doesn't recognize the leader of the Crimean regional government as later in the article he is identified by name.
Btw I saw several hours ago in a comment on a rabble rousing article from the Editorial Board of the Washington Post the remark that many Ukrainian soldiers are deserting.
I understand from this that the BBC doesn't recognize the leader of the Crimean regional government as later in the article he is identified by name.
Btw I saw several hours ago in a comment on a rabble rousing article from the Editorial Board of the Washington Post the remark that many Ukrainian soldiers are deserting.
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I think for now the impact will mainly be political. A Defection of Ukrainian naval chief and it's main warships shows the government in Kiev does not have the obedience of some of the major pillar required to support an truly independent state. So it raises doubts about whether the Kiev government is truly functional. Functionality is a major pillar of legitimacy.
A government, no matter how legitimate constitutionally, will have little true legitimacy in people's hearts if it can't convince its people it can function.
But this won't be a death blow, because while navy is a pillar of a functioning state, it is not a central pillar for a non maritime state. The Kiev government may yet drum up legitimacy by declaring what is happening in Crimea to be an invasion and rallying Ukrainian against it, sort of like how the nonfunctioning French revolutionary government bolstered its legitimacy by rallying against an alliance of European monarchies to reinstate the French king, despite the defection of officer corp of the ancien regime.
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As they installed themselves it will really be difficult for them to be accepted as legitimate by the population. Especially after the loss of a large part of the navy and probably half the army. Who would risk his life for this rabble?
On a side note the Dutch politician who is probably better known outside his country than any other, Geert Wilders, has declared that the EU "knowingly" increased the trouble in Ukraine ( I translate from a Dutch web site ). He is opposed to Dutch membership of the EU.
They'll never come back or see their country again. If Crimea will be Ukranian in the future they won't ever see their houses, friends, won't ever meet with their families in Ukraine. If that was a war and they would be re-captured by Ukrainian forces they could (and some of them perhaps should) be shot dead.
lol, Russian troops trying to take over military bases like on the video I posted below there are doing what? How do you call it? They aren't firing yet but surely those are some disturbing shots. This is what Ukrainians should do in this case - just don't let the Russian troops enter into the bases for now.
[video=youtube;2Ib1pvoWZGA]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ib1pvoWZGA[/video]
I'm pretty sure that Polish and Slovak troops are placed near their borders with Ukraine by now.
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The same web site I mentioned in the previous post pointed me to an article in the German paper Handelsblatt:
Several German bankers and economists are cites who are concerned about the effects of this crisis outside Ukraine. They are afraid that the trouble will damage the economies of the EU countries and of countries all over the World.
The most remarkable I think is this from Prof. Max Otte from Worms university:
The containment of Russia by the West has the potential for a very, very large crisis that far exceeds the economy.
Several German bankers and economists are cites who are concerned about the effects of this crisis outside Ukraine. They are afraid that the trouble will damage the economies of the EU countries and of countries all over the World.
The most remarkable I think is this from Prof. Max Otte from Worms university:
I translate:
The containment of Russia by the West has the potential for a very, very large crisis that far exceeds the economy.
Nonsense. Every last legitimate government in the world traces its ancestry and ultimately owes its existence to an earlier government that installed itself without contemporary legitimacy and subsequently gained legitimacy.
Every titled and ennobled house in the world of governments is the descendant of a bastard. The difference is once they acquire a coat of arms they rewrite their family history.
Well, if they or Hungarian troops, which I also saw mentioned in this context, were to cross the border Russia will feel the Responsibility to Protect. It will reason that it cannot allow forces from other countries rampaging in the Ukraine while that country doesn't have a legitimate and functioning government.
Quite true. I agree wholly. But the first in the line has to live, at least at the beginning, with the thought in the heads of the neighbors and in many of the heads of its own population that they are illegitimate. The only remedy is traditionally violence which in this particular case might not be available in sufficient measure.
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