09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

[jnd85]

you are completely focusing on the wrong part of the story. Like seriously, get over it.

I was actually talking with some folks about PRC torpedo tubes and wondering if that might be the reason for so many submarine sinking incidents over the years. Anyone else hear anything through research or word of mouth? Interested in comparing notes, especially given the Little H.

 

[tphuang]

I was actually talking with some folks about PRC torpedo tubes and wondering if that might be the reason for so many submarine sinking incidents over the years. Anyone else hear anything through research or word of mouth? Interested in comparing notes, especially given the Little H.

What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

What are these submarine sinking incidents?

 

[leibowitz]

What kind of nonsense are you talking about?

What are these submarine sinking incidents?

I haven't heard about submarine sinking incidents but I have heard of near-misses over the years (anecdotally, and through the grapevine). From what I heard the incidents were limited to the 039A, with issues in the combined AShCM + torpedo system that were corrected in the 039AG. No issues in the 093 or 093B

 

[lcloo]

Did I smell $1.6 Billion?

 

[Michaelsinodef]

I haven't heard about submarine sinking incidents but I have heard of near-misses over the years (anecdotally, and through the grapevine). From what I heard the incidents were limited to the 039A, with issues in the combined AShCM + torpedo system that were corrected in the 039AG. No issues in the 093 or 093B

If you're suddenly gonna pop into this thread with this kind of assumption.

The burden is on you provide context/examples of those anecdotes, as well as some reasoning for why you would trust and believe them.

 

[siegecrossbow]

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so now that 093B is out in the sea and probably even conducting initial patrols. Which seems quite likely 3 years after the first one launched that it is commissioned by this point. I think maybe this article is coming up because people inside the pentagon are getting the initial reports on their performances and raising the alarm.

I remember back in the late 2000s, when 093s were first doing their sea trials and I was pretty excited by the news. Soon enough, articles came out basically where US navy was just saying they were really loud and later USNI updated their charts on just how loud the first 093s were.

So, this is quite the expected confirmation. I think it's reasonable at this point to think 093B is at least as quiet across the spectrums as the last bunch of LA class and possibly better than that.

Which imo, is enough to sail undetected once you get past the 1IC line without SSN tailing it.

That’s really impressive. If it is early Virginia level then that’s a major breakthrough for Chinese nuclear subs. Surface fleet comparison would be going from 052C to 052D in terms of capability evolution.