09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread

Blitzo

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@tshurgart3 on Twitter is claiming a 3rd 09IIIB may have been launched (sorry can't post Twitter links right now).

From my own observations on Sentinel in recent weeks, the transfer barge moved from the harbour wall back into its space in the dry dock but this was then emptied. However, it is now full again but the barge is still in place.

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His argument is that a new submarine was seen in drydock on the old western side of the yard alongside two subs at pier, which combined with the visible support cradles on the launch barge whose timing could coincide with a new launch in May (prior to June when the new GE pic emerged) makes him suspect all three are 09IIIBs.

Personally I am not convinced, because I feel like the evidence is circumstantial at best -- i.e. the satellite imagery quality is not good enough to determine if one of any of the three may be an old 09III/A coming back for maintenance, and the cradles on the barge might have been for another purpose such as just a training run or something.

Most importantly, there are enough satellites on Bohai now that I think if a new 09IIIB was launched, I feel like a private satellite company probably would've picked up on it and defense media customers would have made us aware of it.

Of course it isn't impossible that a new 09IIIB launch happened, but at this stage I'm doubtful.
 

Maikeru

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Yes, I don't see why you'd put a brand new sub straight into the old dry dock when any work should have been done before launch. My feeling is that that one is an 093(A) in for refit/repairs. That said, I do get a feeling that another sub is coming out soon.
 

Maikeru

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OK what's going on here then?

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The barge has moved out of its "hutch" and disappeared - it was there 5 days ago. It might be underwater in the flooded drydock. Which suggests a launch, but at this resolution I can't see a new boat anywhere. Possibly something under the red gantry crane?
I'm calling this as a new 093B. Measuring the darkish blob under the gantry crane (it is lighter to the east side) that comes to just over 100m. I think the lighter squarish shape is the submerged barge.
 

Blitzo

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I'm calling this as a new 093B. Measuring the darkish blob under the gantry crane (it is lighter to the east side) that comes to just over 100m. I think the lighter squarish shape is the submerged barge.

Using some of the other colour options it definitely looks like something SSN sized is there and the launch barge could conceivably be below the water.
But simultaneously it would be odd if this launch was not captured by higher resolution imagery, which IMO would be needed to confirm that it is a new 09IIIB. It is definitely something for us to keep in mind though.

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davidau

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I'm calling this as a new 093B. Measuring the darkish blob under the gantry crane (it is lighter to the east side) that comes to just over 100m. I think the lighter squarish shape is the submerged barge.
If you zoom out at 45 Deg south-east, there seems to be a submrine there....could it be the new one??
 
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