No.. can we restrain the over enthusiasm please.
09III/09IV (093/094) Nuclear Submarine Thread
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No.. can we restrain the over enthusiasm please.
Agree... and perhaps put it in th right thread
antiterror13
Brigadier
aha ... unlikely though
Is there a space constraint? If JL-3 is based off DF-41, the radius may be similar but I don't think boosters and overall length of missile is related. JL-2 is shorter than DF-31. It doesn't require quite as much fuel after all.
Hendrik_2000
Lieutenant General
Via Shi12Jun
In the upper right corner of the photo are 4 boats 094A
In the upper right corner of the photo are 4 boats 094A
Why then the hump is higher in the 094 A? please explain.
Could be any variety of reasons.
A different missile compartment could be due to anything such as improved acoustics or perhaps simply a redesign for a better missile tube with better performance (reliability, maintenance, who knows).
Point is, don't go assuming any minor difference is necessarily something that reflects "desirable" improvements, such as increase in missile range, unless we have credible rumours of it.
More importantly in this specific case, the idea that it is carrying JL-3 is certainly beyond the pale, because if such a massive development did happen, there is a very good chance we would have heard about it through the usual channels
We can't just go around speculating willy nilly, without being guided by credible rumours.
Yes, JL-3 does not seem to be ready for deployment yet, from what I gather. It could be a case of "fitted for, but not with" though, where this will eventually become the first boat to use the new missile. Not quite the same thing (new sub, old missile instead of legacy boat design fitted for new missile), but IIRC Le Triomphant entered service with M5(1) tubes fitted with liners for the M45.
If that's true, I suppose it's good news on the missile front (JL-3 available soonish) but means the 09VI class is still a while off.
The 096 production facility might be just starting to tool up and set up. So it's many years away from even being built. Hopefully they design will have benefited from recent advancements/breakthroughs and it will not simply be the same league as Ohio, Borei, Vanguard since the 096 would have been mostly designed after 2010 and finalised recently while those subs were designed in the 1990s (with the available tech and computing of that era). I guess it all depends on how good the propulsion is.
Borei-A is a new submarine. I suspect China had a lot more access to Russian expertise in submarine construction since, given the political realities post 2014 with the invasion of Crimea, so I doubt the designs will be anything but leading edge.
I think they are not rushing with the Type 096 because like you said they are developing new construction facilities. China is going to compete with the US in terms of nuclear submarines over the next decade. These new facilities will enable huge leaps in construction rate.
I hope China will also build a new submarine class to compete with the Virginia class in the numbers required.