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antiterror13

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

MwRYum said:
No there's a world of difference. PLA's entire fleet of rotor wing asset is small and under strength for its size. And the same for its naval aviation as well.

Also, in terms of helicopter ops from ships especially the likes of 071 LPD is transport, for PLAN what they've is Z-8 and they got not enough of that; Z-9 is too small for practical transport; WZ-10 is not yet officially inducted yet and still primary air force or army aviation. See, PLAN Marines might have their own armor assets but they rely on the navy to provide everything else.
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PLAN marines is part of PLAN anyway, you can use USN vs US marine paradigm and use it to PLAN and marine. They are integrated well unlike USN - US marine :)
 
Jeff Head

Jeff Head

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

antiterror13 said:
They are integrated well unlike USN - US marine :)
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The US Navy and the US Marines are very well integrated. Every US Navy amphibious ship has US Marines aboard who have trained endlessly with their US Navy counterparts in amphibious and air assault operations and the support of them by the fleet...and they are very, very good and effective at it...in fact, IMHO, the best at it in the world.

Every US aircraft carrier also embarks wings of US MArine fighter and attack aircraft for that very support, in addition to fleet protection duties.

I do not know where you heard or thought that the US Navy and the US Marines are not wll integrated...but your information is highly inaccurate.
 
bd popeye

bd popeye

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

PLAN marines is part of PLAN anyway, you can use USN vs US marine paradigm and use it to PLAN and marine. They are integrated well unlike USN - US marine :)
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What? Where did you get that information? What Jeff posted about the USMC and USN team is 100% accurate.

I've posted hundreds of photos of the USMC and USN working together..hundreds..

Today's US Navy Hi-res Photos!

Did you know that the USMC has zero medical personnel assigned? Zero. All medical personnel serving with the USMC are from the USN.
 
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A.Man

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bd popeye

bd popeye

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

franco-russe said:
Corpsmen are Navy.
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Correct.. Many of the combat corpsmen have been only assigned to the USMC.

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Hospital Corpsman (HM) perform duties as assistants in the prevention and treatment of disease and injury and assist health care professionals in providing medical care to Navy people and their families. They may function as clinical or specialty technicians, medical administrative personnel and health care providers at medical treatment facilities. They also serve as battlefield corpsmen with the Marine Corps, rendering emergency medical treatment to include initial treatment in a combat environment. Qualified hospital corpsmen may be assigned the responsibility of independent duty aboard ships and submarines; Fleet Marine Force, Special Forces and Seabee units, and at isolated duty stations where no medical officer is available.
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CottageLV

CottageLV

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

franco-russe said:
South Sea Fleet is the primary "blue water" fleet of the PLAN, so it is natural that the first 071's should join 6 Landing Ship Flotilla at Zhanjiang.

It appears that 998 has been training with the only PLAMC brigades, 1 and 164 Marine Brigades, both of which are stationed at Zhanjiang, making it even more natural that they should be based the same place.

But we still do not know where the second pair will be based. I still have a hunch that they will join 5 Landing Ship Flotilla at Shanghai-Wusong.
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I think the categorization of the three fleets are very vague, mainly depending on where the ship is stationed. The three fleets are somewhat merging over the years. Plus, the initial separation into three fleets was a decision caused by the lack of capabilities of PLAN in the early days. The Chinese coastal line is not that long, but when you only had small torpedo boats and few small destroyers/frigates (2000ton class, however you want to call it), you have no choice but to divide it up.

In this period, it would be better to change the classification and nature of those fleets. Instead of three regions for three fleets, it should be a north fleet, responsible for the northern waters; then the southern fleet, covering today's east sea fleet's area plus the spratlys and Taiwan region. Then the third fleet covering oversea, long range operation. Of course due to political pressure, it's not clever to call it the expeditionary fleet/force. Maybe they all should be numbered, 1st to 3rd.

The classification and zoning of the currents fleets are outdated and inadequate for today's situation. It would like having three fleets on each side of the American continents.
 
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