071 LPD thread
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
Could be, but would be a rather boring one at that seeing as there doens't seem to be any aircraft atop the "flight deck" or any other fancy signs or paths which you'd see at a theme park.
Either this photo was taken just as construction of the theme park finished or it's a CG/PS. The fact this thing has just popped up out of nowhere I'd think the latter?
Could be, but would be a rather boring one at that seeing as there doens't seem to be any aircraft atop the "flight deck" or any other fancy signs or paths which you'd see at a theme park.
Either this photo was taken just as construction of the theme park finished or it's a CG/PS. The fact this thing has just popped up out of nowhere I'd think the latter?
navyreco
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
PLAN people looking at Mistral class
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PLAN people looking at Mistral class
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asif iqbal
Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
I think if China makes a LHD it will be very helpful and constructive for China in eventually making a carrier, they will learn alot and gain alot of experience from making a flatop LHD, skills and experience that can be directly employed onto the construction of a home made aircraft carrier , but i think China can make a carrier tommorow if they wanted without making any LHD
i have no idea how Japan can call those massive LHDs "destroyers" or even "helicopter destroyers", is this to get around Japan constitution?
I think if China makes a LHD it will be very helpful and constructive for China in eventually making a carrier, they will learn alot and gain alot of experience from making a flatop LHD, skills and experience that can be directly employed onto the construction of a home made aircraft carrier , but i think China can make a carrier tommorow if they wanted without making any LHD
i have no idea how Japan can call those massive LHDs "destroyers" or even "helicopter destroyers", is this to get around Japan constitution?
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
The new ones they are currently building, the 22DDH are going to be bigger, also without a well deck and I believe those two will be much more geared towards Sea Control with the capability of carrying F-35Bs. A Japanese task force with a Hyuga for ASW and SAR work, at least one of their AEGIS vessels, if not two, and one or two other of their modern DDGs, along with the larger 22DDH would be a strong task force and could really cause havoc to opposition in the sea control role.
The US, UK, France, India, and now China are accomplishing the same thing with a larger carrier providing the center piece alone, doing Sea Control and strike misisons, ASW and SAR, and also having the escorts help with the ASW role.
The Japanese model my have a little more flexability...but the Strike role and Sea Control will not be as strong as with the larger full deck carriers IMHO.
Fact is, in the not too distant future you are going to have a PLAN carrier strike group consisting of the ex-Varyag with her J-15s, a couple of Type 054As, at least one Type 052C and perhaps one Type 51C, along with maybe a Sov plowing the seas with a Japanese 22DDH with F-35s, Hyuga, AEGIS DDGs and their smaller DDGs or FFGs, all very modern.
It will be interesting to see how that comes about and develops. The Koreans seem to be happy with the Dokdo design but their new large AEGIS DDGS (really cruisers IMHO) are also very powerful. Whether we will ever see F-35s on the Dokdo is yet to be seen.
I think the PLAN is going to build a carrier first. At least everything they talk about indicates that is the direction that they are heading. They have the Type 071 which is a strong LPD like the San Antonio class and can meet their immediate needs, particularly as they build more of them.
The Hyuga has no well deck and really is a helicopter carrier. They have the capability to do air assault by helo with it, but to date almost all the training they have done and exercises has been geared towards ASW work in conjunction with the fleets they have been working with...and of course SAR.
The new ones they are currently building, the 22DDH are going to be bigger, also without a well deck and I believe those two will be much more geared towards Sea Control with the capability of carrying F-35Bs. A Japanese task force with a Hyuga for ASW and SAR work, at least one of their AEGIS vessels, if not two, and one or two other of their modern DDGs, along with the larger 22DDH would be a strong task force and could really cause havoc to opposition in the sea control role.
The US, UK, France, India, and now China are accomplishing the same thing with a larger carrier providing the center piece alone, doing Sea Control and strike misisons, ASW and SAR, and also having the escorts help with the ASW role.
The Japanese model my have a little more flexability...but the Strike role and Sea Control will not be as strong as with the larger full deck carriers IMHO.
Fact is, in the not too distant future you are going to have a PLAN carrier strike group consisting of the ex-Varyag with her J-15s, a couple of Type 054As, at least one Type 052C and perhaps one Type 51C, along with maybe a Sov plowing the seas with a Japanese 22DDH with F-35s, Hyuga, AEGIS DDGs and their smaller DDGs or FFGs, all very modern.
It will be interesting to see how that comes about and develops. The Koreans seem to be happy with the Dokdo design but their new large AEGIS DDGS (really cruisers IMHO) are also very powerful. Whether we will ever see F-35s on the Dokdo is yet to be seen.
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Engineer
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
I have made a post regarding LHD earlier:
A poster have mentioned that there are Z-9s that could be used, but these do not belonged to PLAN and are not specially made to withstand salty and humid environment. Z-9 is also too small and under power. I do not think we will see LHD in PLAN's inventory until after 2020.
I have made a post regarding LHD earlier:
A poster have mentioned that there are Z-9s that could be used, but these do not belonged to PLAN and are not specially made to withstand salty and humid environment. Z-9 is also too small and under power. I do not think we will see LHD in PLAN's inventory until after 2020.
navyreco
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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
French Tigre and British Apache operating from Mistral and Ocean during Lybian campaign belong to French and British Army... not Navy.
Helicopters do not HAVE to belong to the Navy in order to operate from LHD:
French Tigre and British Apache operating from Mistral and Ocean during Lybian campaign belong to French and British Army... not Navy.
kwaigonegin
Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft
I know we're arguing semantics but to me an LHA or even an LHD should have a well deck. LHA 6 is my opinion is an 'anomaly' but I think later ships of that class will incorporate welldecks!
It would be crazy for an LHA or LHA to not have well decks! otherwise..they would be call small carries or helo carriers!
I know we're arguing semantics but to me an LHA or even an LHD should have a well deck. LHA 6 is my opinion is an 'anomaly' but I think later ships of that class will incorporate welldecks!
It would be crazy for an LHA or LHA to not have well decks! otherwise..they would be call small carries or helo carriers!
