071 LPD thread

i.e.

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

side track again.

the price offered for basic LM-2 series service starts at 20-30 million USD, 90s dollar.
 

kroko

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

1.58 billion RMB is a pretty widely quoted figure from a pretty good source back in the days. Can't remember who exactly. If you look at how fast they are building 054As now, it shouldn't be surprising to you that they can build it cheaply. And 071 really shouldn't be that expensive either. Kanwa said that the export version of 071 that China was offering to Malaysia was 1/3 the price of what Europeans were offering them at. And the domestic version should be even cheaper. So, you can get an idea of the pricing from that. By the way, more pictures of the second Type 071. And I'm pretty sure we will get more pictures of 3rd and 4th 071. The guy who mentioned the 4th 071 is the same guy that takes these photos. He is pretty accurate

4th 071 ? i guess that means that PLAN is satisfied with it, and the probability of LHD in the near future is not good.
 

lostsoul

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re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Why are there mockup helicopters on the 071 being built?. Are they not building to plans:confused:
 
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Glad to see that the 071 is in serial production. China will probably find them to be a lot more useful, a lot sooner than the Varyag.

In terms of LHDs, I don't think China will spend money on that until the PLA has fielded a full line of satisfactory helo types, including for AEW and ASW.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Why are there mockup helicopters on the 071 being built?. Are they not building to plans:confused:

The PLAN always uses mock up helos for testing when new ships are being fitted out. Presumably because real ones are too useful to be used as a glorified paperweight, and also probably because the mock ups would be easier and cheaper to repair/replace if some of the helo handling equipment doesn't work quite as they expected.
 

no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Allow me to interupt, are you refering 1.58 billion Yuan which is RMB? or you are quoting some japanese source? (which is "yen")

A sidenote: I have no potent knowledge about this, so it's all here-say: I once heard Chinese ICBM (which one I am not sure) is like 几亿 a pop, means several 100 million yuan per pop. So put things together, if you think 300 mil a pop of 071 is not expensive (which, I have no idea), China surely have no problem of producing ICBMs like candys...

But people always likes to point out that "obvious" sources all indicating China dose have ICBM stockpile problems, I suppose at least the CMC (which is "everybody's boss") would not make 071s like lego toys either.

Large nuclear ICBMs tends to be more expensive and also cost more to guard, store and maintain throughout it's working life. Fission material inside also degrades overtime. For short range non nuclear MRBM and SLBM china certainly can and have them like candies.
 

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Large nuclear ICBMs tends to be more expensive and also cost more to guard, store and maintain throughout it's working life. Fission material inside also degrades overtime. For short range non nuclear MRBM and SLBM china certainly can and have them like candies.

China has non-nuclear SLBMs? That's news to me.
 

nosh

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

3B USD is not just slightly more expensive than type 054A. If you trust wiki, it list type 054A's price as 1.58B Yuan.

But I think it is a given that the PLAN will eventurally have those 071s in numbers.

edit: wiki says 300 mil, in which case it is comparable to the type 054A. btw 300 mil is 0.3 Bil, it goes up by factor of 1000.

edit2: My bad, it's yuan not yen.

My bad. It should be 300 million USD.
 

Red___Sword

Junior Member
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

China has non-nuclear SLBMs? That's news to me.

Out of curiosity, is it technically hard, to remove nuke warhead and replace with any other warhead?

I count it not worthy though, but who knows? Situation calls.
 

no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Out of curiosity, is it technically hard, to remove nuke warhead and replace with any other warhead?

I count it not worthy though, but who knows? Situation calls.

Well, technically, would you let the same group of people man both systems? Place them in the same location? Use them the same way with same intensity?
Or would you have special arrangement for obvious national security reasons?

Plus china never officially disclosed their nuclear warhead number. And really if situation requires it they should be able to slot these on the missiles that's already there. Infact this way they can appear to be a lesser nuclear power but may actually have greater capacity in a real conflict.
 
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