071 LPD thread

[MwRYum]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Why does the PLAN have such a good procurement management team?

In comparison to who?

On the other hand though, when 071 first launched it's China's first attempt in LPD, it presents a departure from the doctrine that centers on the LST as the amphibious forces, but needs to pair with the LCAC for the full package. Now that the 071 goes to serial production (at least as it seems to be), would it mean that LCAC also reached serial production as well? Yes I know 3230 LCAC already running trials with the expedition fleet, but that's just one.

And what'd it be for the existing LST fleet? Gradual replacement by the new ships or convert into other roles, like dedicated command ships or fire support platform?

 

[tphuang]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The LST still have a lot of importance in any mission to Taiwan or any of the islands within the first chain. 071 just gives them an ability operate and make expeditionary actions to much further away.

Anyway, it's interesting to get so many additional pictures. The basic weapon suite and sensors do not appear to have changed. The AK-176M is still the main gun and its FCR is still at the same location. The Type 360 is still the main volume search radar and Type 364 is still on the aftmast. We can also see Tacan, satellite communication bulb and other sensors that we see on 998. The Type 347 FCR for AK-630 looks about to be installed. It appears that the 4 AK-630s are installed at the same position as we saw on 998. Also, the 4 multi-rocket decoy launchers are installed in the same position as 998.

 

[Skywatcher]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

In comparison to who?

The ****ing USN procurement program. Our navy is slowing going broke and I doubt we'll ever be able to reach the 313 ship fleet.

 

[MwRYum]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

The ****ing USN procurement program. Our navy is slowing going broke and I doubt we'll ever be able to reach the 313 ship fleet.

Don't worry, even with what the USN have it's still decades ahead of any potential competition, and China is only making up for the lost time during Deng Xiaoping's era.

 

[Lion]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Don't worry, even with what the USN have it's still decades ahead of any potential competition, and China is only making up for the lost time during Deng Xiaoping's era.

This is precisely the complacement problem US faces.

See how fast PLAN can chunk out 999.

Probably in 3-5years time, this comment abt USN will not stand.

 

[rhino123]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

This is precisely the complacement problem US faces.

See how fast PLAN can chunk out 999.

Probably in 3-5years time, this comment abt USN will not stand.

Actually I am not that optimistic. Look, USN still had for more advance destroyers, frigates, submarines and carriers as compared to China. And China, no matter how fast they cough out destroyers and frigates will not amount to what the USN had now.

Plus we are all wowed by the recent development and deployment of the Chinese ships, but can their economic actually hold forever? There are plenty of problems inside China at present moment that needed money to solve, and also the lacking of precious resources such as oil is also a deciding factor on how big the Chinese Navy could go.

True, China is a growing power, but with all growing powers, there are things that needed to be solved such as national security and stability - such as the Xinjiang and Tibet's separatists, poor population (China is still not extremely rich and much of her population still live in povety), energy problem (CHina do not or had very little oil reserve, this do not translate well to her growing industries), most of her inner country had poor infrastructure, especially those with mountains and deserts. Unless all these problems are solved somehow (and it cannot be solve in 3 to 5 years. It will take decades... maybe even a century), PLAN will not be moving that far.

 

[Lion]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Actually I am not that optimistic. Look, USN still had for more advance destroyers, frigates, submarines and carriers as compared to China. And China, no matter how fast they cough out destroyers and frigates will not amount to what the USN had now.

Plus we are all wowed by the recent development and deployment of the Chinese ships, but can their economic actually hold forever? There are plenty of problems inside China at present moment that needed money to solve, and also the lacking of precious resources such as oil is also a deciding factor on how big the Chinese Navy could go.

True, China is a growing power, but with all growing powers, there are things that needed to be solved such as national security and stability - such as the Xinjiang and Tibet's separatists, poor population (China is still not extremely rich and much of her population still live in povety), energy problem (CHina do not or had very little oil reserve, this do not translate well to her growing industries), most of her inner country had poor infrastructure, especially those with mountains and deserts. Unless all these problems are solved somehow (and it cannot be solve in 3 to 5 years. It will take decades... maybe even a century), PLAN will not be moving that far.

Actually, what you mention is all the valid point for the push of a powerful PLAN and they are already going into that direction. The fact you mention abt little oil is the ultimate reason for a powerful PLAN. With China achieveing spectacule result for economic in last 2 decades. It s time to utilise this reserves to generate a push on domestic market.

Every countries have their own problem but does that stop them from advancing? The way you put China as though she is place in same level as some under develop african countries. China is not that bad. In fact, if I use yr theory, USA shall decomission half of its fleet to concentrate on rebuilding its econ and help more homeless and jobless since USA ss also having all the problems(Poor old infastructure,many American lost their jobs,manufacture lost its edge) you mention abt China.

China do not need to match USN in ships to ships. 2-3 CVN will be enough to give PLAN the offensive punch in long range power projection. And to fight USN carrier fleet do not need another fleet to do the job. That's where ASBM comes in.

OK back to topic,071 is a first indication of China long overseas projection ambition, its mission in UN piracy fight gives China a very good experience.

I hope PLAN will have at least 4 series of it before it moves to a bigger/new design.

 

[tphuang]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

guys, please stay on topic and away from US vs China in building program. Any further posts on this subject will be deleted.

 

[plawolf]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

I wonder why they are still using AK630s on the 071. Do they make these domestically or are they imported from Russia?

 

[MwRYum]

re: PLAN Type 071 LPD & its Landing Craft

Don't know about the AK 630 has any locally made copies, but the main gun does, PJ26.

It seems to be the same model adopted for the 054A class frigates.