056 class FFL/corvette

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MwRYum

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Anybody know what this panel thing is? Doesn't seem to look like a normal door:

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The first one can't tell for certain, gotta wait for better pic or its deployment in Hong Kong...though I'd guess the jacked-up cover towards the aft deck is the one for torpedo launcher, similar ones can be found on the 054A FFG as well.
 

no_name

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I was only asking about the first one, the second pic was put there precisely to compare it with the door to the aft.
 

hmmwv

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Close examination of the similar panel on the sides of the funnel lead me to believe it's a cover for side exhaust.
 

no_name

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So then what is the exhaust for that they had to be separate from the main engine exhaust. Maybe from the Kitchen or some cooling vent for radars etc?
 

joshuatree

Captain
So then what is the exhaust for that they had to be separate from the main engine exhaust. Maybe from the Kitchen or some cooling vent for radars etc?

Maybe some fresh air for the "hangar"?

Great observations on the funnel. Now I'm wondering, is there such a similar panel on the exact opposite side of the ship? Could this be some simplified form of ventilation whether for intake or exhaust which helps keep construction costs down?
 

Equation

Lieutenant General
Maybe some fresh air for the "hangar"?

Great observations on the funnel. Now I'm wondering, is there such a similar panel on the exact opposite side of the ship? Could this be some simplified form of ventilation whether for intake or exhaust which helps keep construction costs down?

Could it be short range side radar? The exhaust for the hangars can be seen on the second picture next to the guy in the blue uniform.
 

joshuatree

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Could it be short range side radar? The exhaust for the hangars can be seen on the second picture next to the guy in the blue uniform.

The thought had crossed my mind that it was some econo version of an AESA but I nixed that thought because the bulk of the cost wouldn't be the panels but the gear inside the ship that makes AESA operational. That's why I also asked if there was an identical one on the exact opposite side. Then maybe the radar theory has some traction.

Well if the hangar exhaust is at the end, maybe this is the passive hangar air intake? The ship's forward momentum during travel would create the air flow?
 

The bare metallic funnels (2 large and several smaller ones) look like they're missing some sort of cover themselves!

I think the 'mystery' two-panel covering is on the starboard side only. Don't know why that is and don't know what it is.
 

Preux

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Yes, I am one of those who can see the sometimes obvious things without having to know the exact weight, deck penetration, captain's cabin, number of toilet seats.... There are many more much smaller OPV out there with much bigger top weight. No man, a few more missles and a slightly larger launcher won't do too much to the ship's stability. Sorry for being so simple minded. But sometimes things in the engineering world is just not as complicated and precise as people tend to think.

Then you wouldn't have any trouble naming them, then, and quoting the actual operational load out and trials results? Oh, while you are at it, you can tell us more about the 056's top weight. I mean, you know the smaller ships have bigger top weights, so you must know the 056's, right? Go on. I am sure we'd all be very much edified by your precise dissection of the visible equipment on same.

HINT: The Sa'ar V is a joke. A bad joke.

And no, I am afraid ship building - especially warships, which has a rather more complicated set of constraints than civilian ships many times it size (just for example, few civilian ships has large weights moving on its decks... and those which do usually don't tend to have large recoil forces. This is entirely without going into hullform) is one of those things that are actually more complicated than people thing. The amount of bunkerage in a ship and the weight distribution, for instance, is I promise you something the average person won't even consider.


Forgive me for not being clear, I did not propose a solution. My entire post was to point out that it must be some kind of space issue or other concerns that lead to the installation of the 8 missile launcher. Otherwise, they could simply place a standard launcher on the ship instead of developing new ones.

Then we are not disagreeing. It is probably some sort of trade off.

Numbers, numbers, bummers, nobody has any real numbers for on the ship for the time being. What make you think a one-off design investment would be cheaper? Perhaps when the time comes, they will need a 22 missile launcher. That's why the navy always upgrade their ships every few years. Again I am not saying that the 8 missile launcher is bad for the ship. But, I am just not sure the reason they did it is to save the cost of having to fit 22 missiles in the launcher.

I don't have to prove anything. You make a postulate that it is more expensive (the point of your post). I disagree. Burden of proof is on you. For what it's worth, however, I'll explain why I suspect that is the case:
1) It is a one time investment that can be amortized over the entire production lifetime
2) It appears to share a lot of of commonality with its larger counterpart - most notably the missiles
3) We have seen the innards of the
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- it appears to scale quite well.
4) Last but not least... the design already existed.

Anyway, you already answered your own question. If operational requirements change (remember, we haven't even seen the formal induction of the class), they can probably deal with it in the next batch or during mid-life upgrade.
 

no_name

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The bare metallic funnels (2 large and several smaller ones) look like they're missing some sort of cover themselves!

I think the 'mystery' two-panel covering is on the starboard side only. Don't know why that is and don't know what it is.

Someone has suggested they might simply be radiator panels for the air conditioning unit.
 
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