055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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ashnole said:
The 25-inch X 25-inch cells of the Mk41 VLS used on the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers support missiles of upto 22-inches in diameter while the 28-inch X 28-inch cells of the Mk57 PVLS used on the Zumwalt-class guided-missile destroyers support missiles of upto 25-inches in diameter.

The Chinese UVLS cells are 33.4-inch X 33.4-inch. What is the maximum diameter missile can these cells support?
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Diameter isn't as important because the miisiles need some margin around their sides and the canister wall. The CCL design of the VLS means the U-VLS needs more of it as gas outlet for the hot launch. Only the cold launched missiles can optimally use the diameter of the U-VLS.

What's more important is missile length maximum for each VLS. Strike length Mk 41 has a maximum canister length of 6.7 meters, out of an over all VLS depth of 7.7 meters. The one meter balance is for the hot launch system. The short version of the U-VLS is certified for a missile length of 7m and the long version at 9 meters. The near 7 meters long HQ-9 missile won't fit on the Mk.41., much less the near 9 meter long YJ-18.
 
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ashnole said:
The 25-inch X 25-inch cells of the Mk41 VLS used on the Ticonderoga-class guided-missile cruisers and the Arleigh Burke-class guided-missile destroyers support missiles of upto 22-inches in diameter while the 28-inch X 28-inch cells of the Mk57 PVLS used on the Zumwalt-class guided-missile destroyers support missiles of upto 25-inches in diameter.

The Chinese UVLS cells are 33.4-inch X 33.4-inch. What is the maximum diameter missile can these cells support?
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Probably less than 30 inch for Hot launch missiles as Chinese UVLS use some space area in the UVLS for venting the hot gas (CCL). But for Cold launch probably around 30 inch

The MK41 use totally different hot gas venting system, it uses the venting outside the tube itself and as Tam pointed out earlier, it would sacrifice some missile length as some as used for venting system

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ACuriousPLAFan said:
According to Sutton, the first 2 ships of the 2nd batch Type 055-class are already under construction this January.
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1481197944783228929
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He is following the logic, not unreasonable, that when you see four hulls under construction in that Dalian dock, two are 055 and two are 052D, although Chinese netizens are saying its all four 052D. Sutton's logic is not unreasonable because that was the same pattern Dalian had before building the previous batches. Currently the hulls are not identifiable at this stage. It's worth waiting until the hulls are fleshed out, to be absolute which are 052D or 055.

Sutton should be in cloud nine right now for having drawn an illustration of a 055 firing an antiballistic missile similar to the photograph in his article in Forbes back in 2020.

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gongolongo said:
Has anyone ever seen a cold launched ballistic missile? I think the cold launch makes it much more unlikely that it's a ballistic missile.
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Many of the world's ICBMs (including Chinese ICBMs) and most if not all of the world's SLBMs are cold launched.
IRBMs as well (including Chinese IRBMs).

Cold launched ballistic missiles are very common.
 
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