055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[antiterror13]

Then again, apart from these romantic comparisons which is off-topic hence I have to ignore at the moment, China cannot and should NOT rely on imported weapons systems from now on. S-400 and Poliment-Redut are quite different, mind you. If PLAN is indeed in need of an indigenous ESSM, they can develop one from PL-15 BVRAAM with the help of a modest booster right away.

totally agree, but they both (China and Russia) should cooperate and help each other

Trump currently focuses at China ... but who knows in the blink of eye change to Russia or India or Japan or Germany or France or anybody really

 

[by78]

Update from Dalian...

 

[Kejora]

China and Russia aren't exactly the best of friends. And judging from the Chinese interest in the arctic ocean, thus conflict of interest, the chances of their relations further improve is rather slim. Hence, investing in an unproven weapons system (that is Poliment-Redut) of a nation one challenges at multiple theatres is redundant.

Apparently China already has something similar

DK-10

 

[SpicySichuan]

Apparently China already has something similar

DK-10

DK-10 has a 50 range similar to ESSM, but it is small enough for four of them be fitted into one of the 055's VLS? Also I don't the PLA has ever officially accepted the DK-10 into service.

 

[Roberto]

101 in underway replenishment exercise...

Impressive.

 

[antiterror13]

DK-10 has a 50 range similar to ESSM, but it is small enough for four of them be fitted into one of the 055's VLS? Also I don't the PLA has ever officially accepted the DK-10 into service.

Dimension wise shouldn't be a problem 3.69 m length and 203 mm diameter, so it would fit into the 7m VLS. I believe performance wise, PLAAF not satisfied yet. The SAM would need to be modified to fit into the shortest VLS (3.3m). For cross section, Chinese VLS has 850mm, so I think the SAM can be a bit larger up to 350 mm diameter

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[Tam]

DK-10 is based off the PL-12. By now, they should develop and do something based off the PL-15 or PL-15.

 

[Blitzo]

Dimension wise shouldn't be a problem 3.69 m length and 203 mm diameter, so it would fit into the 7m VLS. I believe performance wise, PLAAF not satisfied yet. The SAM would need to be modified to fit into the shortest VLS (3.3m). For cross section, Chinese VLS has 850mm, so I think the SAM can be a bit larger up to 350 mm diameter

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I would be surprised if their 5-3 MR SAM is designed to fit into the shortest VLS; considering ESSM block i is already 3.66 meters long and ESSM Block II has been said to be slightly longer than that due to its slightly larger seeker radome geometry.

I suspect they would install the 5-3 missile to be fit in the 7m long VLS, but obviously it won't take up the entire 7m length but likely more like <4 meters.


The 3.3 meter long UVLS imo is more useful for shorter range SAMs of the CIWS to MRSAM category like Sea Ceptor or K SAAM.

 

[Kejora]

I would be surprised if their 5-3 MR SAM is designed to fit into the shortest VLS; considering ESSM block i is already 3.66 meters long and ESSM Block II has been said to be slightly longer than that due to its slightly larger seeker radome geometry.

I suspect they would install the 5-3 missile to be fit in the 7m long VLS, but obviously it won't take up the entire 7m length but likely more like <4 meters.


The 3.3 meter long UVLS imo is more useful for shorter range SAMs of the CIWS to MRSAM category like Sea Ceptor or K SAAM.

DK-10 is 5m long and the 3.3m vls is probably intended for small patrol boat that's not big enough to carry FL-3000N turret.

it's probably going to carry missile in the same class as Barak-1, K SAAM, Sea Ceptor and VL-MICA.

 

[azretonov]

Apparently China already has something similar

DK-10

Thanks for the reminder, truthfully I forgot about this one. Which is why I suggested a PL-15 based shipborne self-defense suit on an earlier edited post (#7,816).

Maybe at some point, PLAN might reconsider employing such self-defense measures apart from CIWS. Not that I think their surface combatants are under equipped.