055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[Iron Man]

If nothing else happens photo-wise by then, I will be flying into Shanghai Pudong at the end of September to visit relatives and will be booking a window seat in case the plane swings over Changxing Island during final approach. Maybe my iPhone will get to take some photos or I may possibly be able to make a visual confirmation of the size of the rear VLS section.

I've actually been scrutinizing the island in relation to the axis of the airport strips in order to pick the side that is most likely to give a good view, but unfortunately the strips run directly into the path of the harbor where the naval ships are moored so it's at best a 50-50 gamble.

 

[Jeff Head]

Now it looks like this:

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You know, when you ook at that pic, it is clear that they are playing some games with the forward VLS.



Take a look at that pic and tell me hown many cells are in the forward VLS.

Then look at this pic of the launch and you will see how many are truly there.



It is clear to me, that those two pics are depicting two different things. Perhaps it is just the lighting...but the more I have studied it and zoomed in and enhanced it, the more convinced I am that the first one is almost intentionally understating things.

I believe the second represents the true state of things with 64 VLS cells forward.

 

[Blitzo]

You know, when you ook at that pic, it is clear that they are playing some games with the forward VLS.

View attachment 41092

Take a look at that pic and tell me hown many cells are in the forward VLS.

Then look at this pic of the launch and you will see how many are truly there.

View attachment 41091

It is clear to me, that those two pics are depicting two different things. Perhaps it is just the lighting...but the more I have studied it and zoomed in and enhanced it, the more convinced I am that the first one is almost intentionally understating things.

I believe the second represents the true state of things with 64 VLS cells forward.

They haven't edited either of the pictures, they're both from the same video.


It's just that the angle of the video in the first picture makes it seem like the 64 VLS is only 32. I remember back when the 054A was first launched, the first few photos of the ship were at a low angle and from the frontal aspect of the ship, and there was a lot of debate over just how many VLS it had because from that angle (like the first 055 photo) it made it look like there were only 16 VLS on the 054A's bow. Of course, in reality there are 32 VLS on the 054A.

That's just a natural consequence of the angle at which a photo is taken, sometimes it looks like there are less VLS than there actually are.


I don't think they were trying to deceive anyone with the 055 video, considering the fact that they immediately showed a high angle side on view of the 055's bow with all 64 VLS.

 

[jobjed]

If nothing else happens photo-wise by then, I will be flying into Shanghai Pudong at the end of September to visit relatives and will be booking a window seat in case the plane swings over Changxing Island during final approach. Maybe my iPhone will get to take some photos or I may possibly be able to make a visual confirmation of the size of the rear VLS section.

I've actually been scrutinizing the island in relation to the axis of the airport strips in order to pick the side that is most likely to give a good view, but unfortunately the strips run directly into the path of the harbor where the naval ships are moored so it's at best a 50-50 gamble.

It's less than 50/50, since pilots land from the south when the wind is appropriate.

 

[Jura The idiot]

If nothing else happens photo-wise by then, I will be flying into Shanghai Pudong at the end of September to visit relatives and will be booking a window seat in case the plane swings over Changxing Island during final approach. Maybe my iPhone will get to take some photos or I may possibly be able to make a visual confirmation of the size of the rear VLS section.

I've actually been scrutinizing the island in relation to the axis of the airport strips in order to pick the side that is most likely to give a good view, but unfortunately the strips run directly into the path of the harbor where the naval ships are moored so it's at best a 50-50 gamble.

LOL cool post I mean it, wish you the best of luck!

 

[Iron Man]

It's less than 50/50, since pilots land from the south when the wind is appropriate.

You mean from the southeast. I assume they circle at a certain altitude while waiting to land, which may afford an opportunity to view the harbor. The altitude may be too high to see anything, however. In any case, if they land from the southeast, then they must take off towards the northwest, which means I may have another opportunity during takeoff to view the harbor. Hopefully the plane won't turn or climb too high until after it passes over the island.

LOL cool post I mean it, wish you the best of luck!

Thanks!

 

[latenlazy]

If nothing else happens photo-wise by then, I will be flying into Shanghai Pudong at the end of September to visit relatives and will be booking a window seat in case the plane swings over Changxing Island during final approach. Maybe my iPhone will get to take some photos or I may possibly be able to make a visual confirmation of the size of the rear VLS section.

I've actually been scrutinizing the island in relation to the axis of the airport strips in order to pick the side that is most likely to give a good view, but unfortunately the strips run directly into the path of the harbor where the naval ships are moored so it's at best a 50-50 gamble.

If you can bring a camera with a long zoom lens.

 

[Iron Man]

If I'm at less than 2,000ft/600m, I think I will be able to visually identify how many UVLS modules there are (assuming I can see it), especially if there is a 052D tied up nearby.

 

[Iron Man]

You know, when you ook at that pic, it is clear that they are playing some games with the forward VLS.

View attachment 41092

Take a look at that pic and tell me hown many cells are in the forward VLS.

Then look at this pic of the launch and you will see how many are truly there.

View attachment 41091

It is clear to me, that those two pics are depicting two different things. Perhaps it is just the lighting...but the more I have studied it and zoomed in and enhanced it, the more convinced I am that the first one is almost intentionally understating things.

I believe the second represents the true state of things with 64 VLS cells forward.

The first photo where it looks like there are only 32 cells forward is because each "cell" is actually two cells that due to the angle are blended together to look like only one cell.

 

[morosini]

The Military Museum in Beijing showcased a few old proposals for the 055's design. Basically an enlarged 052C with a SMART-L-esque VSR.

Boy, am I glad they went with the current 055 design. This one comes off as rather unoptimised, much like the 052C was compared to the 052D.

Is this the often cited 20k ton proposal? Looking at the size of helicopter, it seems not to be it