055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[Iron Man]

That's exactly what I mean. Both displace 9,800 metric tons yet he claimed the Flight III was "larger". Why is this confusing?

 

[Jura The idiot]

That's exactly what I mean. Both displace 9,800 metric tons yet he claimed the Flight III was "larger". Why is this confusing?

well, even

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but I don't mean to nitpick

 

[Jura The idiot]

Unless the deck height of the 055 is significantly taller than the deck height of the 052D, they are approximately the same size, if not exactly the same size.

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would you confirm what the debaters told me today, which was the panel is square shaped?

LOL or should I see an eye doctor:

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[Iron Man]

Nobody can say if it is exactly square unless we can get an exactly perpendicular photo shot, but I'm not sure why whether it is exactly square or not makes any difference towards its functionality.

 

[Equation]

Nobody can say if it is exactly square unless we can get an exactly perpendicular photo shot, but I'm not sure why whether it is exactly square or not makes any difference towards its functionality.

I think he meant whether it's convex in shape.

 

[Iron Man]

I think he meant whether it's convex in shape.

I was under the impression that the convexity of the 052C cover panels was due to its unique air cooling system, which since the 346A has been liquid-cooled and therefore does not need a convex cover. The covers on the 055 certainly look flat to me.

 

[Jura The idiot]

I think he meant whether it's convex in shape.

LOL! nah, that's what I neglect, all I've wanted to know is an approximate area ... now it's becoming a long story which began ... Today at 8:42 AM

(with somebody else's claim which I just tried to check; it's this paragraph from inside of the link inside of that post:

"The new radar is inferior to that on China’s 052D as 052D’s radar has a radar array surface of 4.3-meter diameter. Flight III’s radar array surface though 0.6 meters greater than the old radar, has a diameter of only 4.2 meters. The radar array surface of 055’s radar is significantly larger than 052D’s so that it is much powerful than Flight III’s radar."

which is why I asked about the dimension of the panel of a Type 055 Today at 9:11 AM)

but even if I knew the area ...:

Nobody can say if it is exactly square unless we can get an exactly perpendicular photo shot, but I'm not sure why whether it is exactly square or not makes any difference towards its functionality.

people of course may tell me it's meaningless to compare the area of panels, because what matters is inside ... but you know what LOL I'm not a quitter, estimated the FIII AB octagon to be 14.6 m^2 Today at 4:12 PM

 

[Blitzo]

Yes, we have gone over this tired argument before. You have several errors in this post (like Flight III vs Tico displacement) which I'm sure if we go line by line will result in another 10 pages of ego tripping. Suffice it to say that this post (these two posts) represents your opinion rather than your making a statement of some kind of heretofore unacknowledged fact of ship classification.

I'm not sure how this either adds or seeks to disagree what Lethe or I wrote.

 

[Blitzo]

That's exactly what I mean. Both displace 9,800 metric tons yet he claimed the Flight III was "larger". Why is this confusing?

I was under the impression that Flight III Burke would displace 10,000 tons on the dot, whereas Tico displaces 9,600 tons. Though I'm not sure if those numbers for flight III have changed recently or anything.

 

[Iron Man]

"The new radar is inferior to that on China’s 052D as 052D’s radar has a radar array surface of 4.3-meter diameter. Flight III’s radar array surface though 0.6 meters greater than the old radar, has a diameter of only 4.2 meters. The radar array surface of 055’s radar is significantly larger than 052D’s so that it is much powerful than Flight III’s radar."

I don't know who posted that, but it is humorously and ludicrously precise given how impossible it is to measure the exact dimensions of the radar based on the external cover (how large is the lip, does he know?), nor do we know the placement of the T/R modules. It certainly is not square if it is anything like the 052C's arrangement:

I'm not sure how this either adds or seeks to disagree what Lethe or I wrote.

I'm surprised that you're still not sure where I stand on this particular topic.

I was under the impression that Flight III Burke would displace 10,000 tons on the dot, whereas Tico displaces 9,600 tons. Though I'm not sure if those numbers for flight III have changed recently or anything.

Where are you getting these two numbers from? We are talking metric tons here, just to be absolutely clear.