055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

[Richard Santos]

Does "the 3 holes" mean 055 will have 3 type of radars? my apologies for this simple question

More likely two different search radars operating in two different bands, plus a dedicated fire control illuminator, all three electronically scanned in both axis.

 

[dingyibvs]

Did you expect his to say differently?

No, because I do believe it'll be among the most advanced in the world. I know what you mean though, but usually they're quite honest if a system is not quite as advanced as those of world leaders'. For example, just last couple of days I read an article about a high-level semiconductor official criticizing the gap between Chinese IC designs vs. Intel's.

 

[Hendrik_2000]

Did you expect his to say differently?

Based on what they have done sofar I don't doubt for once he told the truth!
You might not like it but that is the reality. Technological progress is not linear IT IS EXPONENTIAL. Think of Germany before WWII. Actually my Aufsatz(Essay) in high school. Germany too was behind England But the concerted effort of German industry couples with excellent research, engineering school did overtake England in some field of engineering

China industrial base and engineering prowess has reached that critical mass. We see it from the avalanche of new weapon,system, etc. Hardly a day goes by without any new news of new system. I should know because I track closely
Specially now hundred thousand of sea turtle coming back.I read somewhere There are so many Los Alamos alumni that they form a club

 

[latenlazy]

Did you expect his to say differently?

Maybe some don't expect him to have anything to say?

 

[Lethe]

No surprises there. When the first 055 is commissioned it'll probably have the most capable radar set of any warship afloat, save perhaps for the set on the USS Gerald R. Ford. AB Flight III with dual-band AMDR won't arrive until a couple years later.

 

[Blackstone]

Based on what they have done sofar I don't doubt for once he told the truth!
You might not like it but that is the reality. Technological progress is not linear IT IS EXPONENTIAL. Think of Germany before WWII. Actually my Aufsatz(Essay) in high school. Germany too was behind England But the concerted effort of German industry couples with excellent research, engineering school did overtake England in some field of engineering

China industrial base and engineering prowess has reached that critical mass. We see it from the avalanche of new weapon,system, etc. Hardly a day goes by without any new news of new system. I should know because I track closely
Specially now hundred thousand of sea turtle coming back.I read somewhere There are so many Los Alamos alumni that they form a club

I have no problems believing China has made great strides and could produce some world-class military systems. But, Project Leaders/Directors putting positive spins on his/her 'baby' is common, and one might say expected. I'd like to hear more about challenges on the project and how the team solved them though.

 

[latenlazy]

I have no problems believing China has made great strides and could produce some world-class military systems. But, Project Leaders/Directors putting positive spins on his/her 'baby' is common, and one might say expected. I'd like to hear more about challenges on the project and how the team solved them though.

When has the "positive spin" about these things been wrong?

 

[vesicles]

I have no problems believing China has made great strides and could produce some world-class military systems. But, Project Leaders/Directors putting positive spins on his/her 'baby' is common, and one might say expected. I'd like to hear more about challenges on the project and how the team solved them though.

Well, in my experience, Chinese officials are usually quite realistic when evaluating their own projects.

If you remember, the Chinese officials would say something along the line of "we want to learn as much as we can" in the 1990's.

Then in the 2000's, they began to say something like "we are trying to close the gap". In fact, they still say this a lot.

Then sometimes, someone would say "our stuff is close to world-class", or even "as good as those best in the world".

Then every once in a while, you would hear someone say "our stuff is the best in the world". Not often, but we do hear this kind of talk now.

And Chinese officials who are in charge of the project are usually more conservative about his/her own projects. I think this is mostly out of necessity because they don't want to seen as "bragging". Also keep in mind that Chinese officials are promoted, not elected. Bragging yourself might win you popular votes, but won't look good in the eyes of your superior. In Chinese politics, bragging is a sign of immaturity, not a good virtue to have for promotions.

 

[Blitzo]

I imagine this is blackstone who has responded with derision to Hendrik's post which was about that radar thing?

I've blocked him so I can't see what he's saying but it's probably close to that.

Just remember, in his mind, anytime a Chinese govt or military official or scientist acknowledges any limitation or setback that they have whether it's via a rumour or an official manner, he interprets it as "finally telling the truth" but anytime they state an achievement or advancement it's "let's wait and see" or "it's probably communist propaganda that you'd expect to see"... or something of that sort.

 

[Blackstone]

Well, in my experience, Chinese officials are usually quite realistic when evaluating their own projects.

Remind me how late the C919 is again?

If you remember, the Chinese officials would say something along the line of "we want to learn as much as we can" in the 1990's.

Then in the 2000's, they began to say something like "we are trying to close the gap". In fact, they still say this a lot.

Then sometimes, someone would say "our stuff is close to world-class", or even "as good as those best in the world".

Then every once in a while, you would hear someone say "our stuff is the best in the world". Not often, but we do hear this kind of talk now.

And Chinese officials who are in charge of the project are usually more conservative about his/her own projects. I think this is mostly out of necessity because they don't want to seen as "bragging". Also keep in mind that Chinese officials are promoted, not elected. Bragging yourself might win you popular votes, but won't look good in the eyes of your superior. In Chinese politics, bragging is a sign of immaturity, not a good virtue to have for promotions.

We're not actually far apart on this part of your post, given caveats on the usual suspects like jet engines and commercial aviation.