055 DDG Large Destroyer Thread

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Insignius

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Dont forget that there are some real prospects that the 055 will actually feature an enclosed AGS-styled gun.

Satellite pictures suggest as much. Ask RAJ47.
 

kwaigonegin

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Dont forget that there are some real prospects that the 055 will actually feature an enclosed AGS-styled gun.

Satellite pictures suggest as much. Ask RAJ47.

Why? It doesn't make much sense to me. 055 is not really a stealth warship therefore covering the main gun will only net negligible gain in total RCS reduction.
 

Insignius

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Why? Because maybe the mockup does in fact not totally represent the actual Type 055.
The earlier rumors all indicate that the 055 will have at least "significant signal reduction features" - and an AGS and maybe even stealthier casings for the CIWS would be possible.

I also believe that the huge ESM mast on top would also be enclosed by some sort of dielectric mast. On the mockup, it looks kinda makeshift.
 

Mirabo

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Why? It doesn't make much sense to me. 055 is not really a stealth warship therefore covering the main gun will only net negligible gain in total RCS reduction.

It's for the same reason that some fourth-generation fighters were designed with some stealth features to reduce RCS. It doesn't have a high degree of stealth as a primary feature, but every bit helps.

Even ships like the Type 052D, which while not a "true" stealth ship like the Zumwalt, can be considered "stealthier" than, say, an Arleigh Burke because of the relative lack of "jumble" and the abundance of flat, angular surfaces that deflect radio waves.

In other words, stealth isn't an all-or-nothing type of deal. The Zumwalt is a ship that takes RCS reduction to the extreme. Other warships have RCS-reducing features, just not to the same extent that the Zumwalt does. An enclosed gun mount is just another stealthy feature with no real downside, so there's no reason why the 055 shouldn't have one if it could.
 

Insignius

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For what is worth, we have never seen an enclosure like this during the construction of the 052Ds before. Even not on those that were built in the open, like the Dalian ones.
The recent satellite pictures show that this enclosure is, in fact, kinda triangular shaped, as we can see from the shadows.

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Earlier pictures also show that the hole for the gun is untypically square and not round, as with the 052D.

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Iron Man

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Dont forget that there are some real prospects that the 055 will actually feature an enclosed AGS-styled gun.

Satellite pictures suggest as much. Ask RAJ47.
Who is RAJ47 and why should anyone care what he believes?

This hype about a 055 "AGS" is hot air until proven otherwise. That object over the main gun mount is a slanted sheet roof until proven otherwise. Just because we can't prove what it is now doesn't mean people can start speculating all kinds of outlandish fantasies about what it may be. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence, and right now we have nothing of the kind.
 

Mirabo

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Regarding the weird boxy shape seen on the 055 under construction or the "hole" for the gun seen in satellite pictures, these prove nothing.

First, the weapons are only fitted after the hull is complete. There is close to zero probability that the rectangular object on the first 055's foredeck is a gun mount of any type, because the hull hasn't even been assembled! This is no indication that the Type 055 will have an enclosed gun mount.

Second, a square or rectangular barbette is physically impossible. For something to be able to rotate like a gun turret, the base must be round, and only the rotating part above the hull can be rectangular. As such, the rectangular hole proves nothing either. For all we know it could be a rectangular ammo handling bay for a round turret!

Yes, the possibility exists that the 055 might have an enclosed gun mount. However, so far, there is not a shred of evidence in the 055's construction that tells us what kind of gun mount it will have. For now, there is sinply no way of knowing.
 

Insignius

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People here call themselves China spotters and dont know who RAJ47 is? Seriously?

Next you tell me you dont know who Deino is as well.

I rest my case. We will see.
 

Iron Man

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People here call themselves China spotters and dont know who RAJ47 is? Seriously?

Next you tell me you dont know who Deino is as well.

I rest my case. We will see.
You've got nothing except speculation from another fanboi. Yes we will see. :)
 
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