Us mere mortals do not have the ability to comprehend the nuances and complexities of the PLA's own internal opsec requirements
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Us mere mortals do not have the ability to comprehend the nuances and complexities of the PLA's own internal opsec requirements
MwRYum
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LOL
Seriously though, when the whole hull has been fullly put together, that'd be when some low-res pic of the completed hull first released. Or somebody pay enough to get some commercial high-res satellite shots....
One thing that i find odd about this construction (if it is happening, that is) is that why arent they doing it inside a building hall as they do with the 052D hulls? 055 isnt that much bigger than a 052D and the building hall at JN can take it IMO.
vesicles
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How do you know they aren't doing it in a building? We don't have any photos...
Well, we DO have photos, those that we have recently in this thread. Not as recent as these sketches but they are there. And they werent inside a building hall.
Besides, in the photos we have of 052D hulls under constrution inside the building halls, we cant see almost nothing of the hulls inside there, only the front of the hull. I dont believe anyone could draw this sketches based on what they see outside of it.
The building halls may well be assigned to other construction tasks, including civilian ships.
A better question to ask is whether building inside the hall actually offers any sort of meaningful superiority compared to building in an unenclosed environment. It isn't like one is necessarily anymore advanced than the other.
Someone has mentioned that that area of JN shipyards is reserved for military construction, so no civilian ships in there, but i could be wrong in that. But even so, i think that 055 would have greater priority than other vessels.
As for your question, what i know is that building in an enclosed environment means that construction can be done safely from the weather, and in the case of military vessels, safely from the eyes of satellites.
I believe I have seen civilian ships being built in the enclosed building halls before. I'm sure you know that there are two enclosed halls, and anyone who's followed the shipyard over the last few years would know that only one of hall has been used for constructing naval ships in the last few years (052Ds from hull 2 onwards) -- the other one has been used for various other purposes.
And yes, obviously building under a roof does protect construction from the weather to a degree and does hide it from satellites, but shipbuilding done in drydocks out in the open is still quite common. Even the Zumwalt class are being built/were built completely out in the open, and of course there are no enclosed hangars big enough to support construction of ships like carriers.
So there should be no reason to expect that 055 construction should have definitely occurred in the enclosed building halls, or to think it is strange that they're choosing to build in an open air drydock.
steve_rolfe
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Regarding the build of the 055 outside at JN shipyard.
Well, obviously the vessel is either too big to build in the halls, or that rather than disrupt the build of the 052D class, in the right hand hall (looking from the front), the PLAN wanted to start a.s.a.p. on the 055 class.
I suppose the question will be answered when we see the construction of the 2nd 055, and where it is done.
Just for reference the 052D class, that are being built at Dalian, are being constructed outside, whereas we know the 052D's at JN are built under cover.
Well, obviously the vessel is either too big to build in the halls, or that rather than disrupt the build of the 052D class, in the right hand hall (looking from the front), the PLAN wanted to start a.s.a.p. on the 055 class.
I suppose the question will be answered when we see the construction of the 2nd 055, and where it is done.
Just for reference the 052D class, that are being built at Dalian, are being constructed outside, whereas we know the 052D's at JN are built under cover.
The way I see it, the question (which to be honest does not seem that interesting to me to begin with) is whether 055 can be physically assembled within one of JN's building hall or not, which is a size issue; vs whether the 055 is currently not being built inside JN's building hall due to other reasons such as having other ship orders already having been given slots in the building halls.
But there should be nothing improper or meaningfully "less capable" in building a ship in an unenclosed drydock vs an enclosed building hall -- for assessing the assembly and construct a ship, it is far more important to look at the overall function of the shipyard at large and how well they can construct, move and assemble new modules among its different staging areas and drydocks/halls/berths than simply looking at a single drydock vs a single berth and whether it has a roof or not.
So I see this as very much a non-issue.
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