054/A FFG Thread II

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this actually came out as a total surprise for me, but here is the 5th 054A from HP shipyard. You can see the 4th one in 548 coming back for some work on the left side and then the 5th one almost ready to be launched on the right. But from several good sources that normally post these pictures, this is real and was just hidden really well that's all.
 

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Hang on, if that is number 5 from HP that must mean that we now have 9 confirmed hulls, which by proxy suggests we will see at least 10, for the 054A class?

That is pretty impressive, especially baring in mind that these are on top of the Jiangwei class which are not that old in warship terms.

Has there been any new regarding the hulls that have been touted as new destroyers at Jiangnan?

Also, what is the vessel next to 548? It looks like an MSA OPV?
 
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Hang on, if that is number 5 from HP that must mean that we now have 9 confirmed hulls, which by proxy suggests we will see at least 10, for the 054A class?

That is pretty impressive, especially baring in mind that these are on top of the Jiangwei class which are not that old in warship terms.

Has there been any new regarding the hulls that have been touted as new destroyers at Jiangnan?

Also, what is the vessel next to 548? It looks like an MSA OPV?

yeah, that's what it means pretty much. Hard to say about the vessel next to 548. Need an up-close look. I think after the 10th 054A, it will be all the 054 series ship for a while. They would have built 12 054/A. And according to a Richard Interview with MAN diesel a while ago, the contract for the first round of diesel engines will be for 12 ships. And after that, they are moving to a larger design with gas turbine engines. I was expecting them to stop producing the 2nd wave of 054A at 4 units, because the first wave was 4 ships. And that was aided by the fact they hid the 5th 054A at HP so well. But now that it's out, my guess is that this and the 5th 054A at HD will be the last ones.
 

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Is it just me or does the bow look different?

If you are asking whether or not the bow sonar looks larger, it does. But then again, let's wait for more up-close photos. Hopefully, the photo takers will get down there quickly and come up with better photos.
 

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yeah, that's what it means pretty much. Hard to say about the vessel next to 548. Need an up-close look. I think after the 10th 054A, it will be all the 054 series ship for a while. They would have built 12 054/A. And according to a Richard Interview with MAN diesel a while ago, the contract for the first round of diesel engines will be for 12 ships. And after that, they are moving to a larger design with gas turbine engines. I was expecting them to stop producing the 2nd wave of 054A at 4 units, because the first wave was 4 ships. And that was aided by the fact they hid the 5th 054A at HP so well. But now that it's out, my guess is that this and the 5th 054A at HD will be the last ones.

I must admit I am somewhat surprised by the news of further 054A units myself, I do however agree that it is likely they will move towards a larger gas turbine design, possibly with an AESA radar derived from the 052C technology.
 

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The new 054A seems to have a newly designed bridge which is pointed to the front like an arrow. Some close up shots should be able to tell us that this's really the case or it's just some lighting effect.
 

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What are the chances that this and maybe future 54a's are for export?
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The Pakistan Navy will be acquiring Type 054 (NATO Codename JIANGKAI I) 4000 ton type of frigates from China.

BEIJING, July 22: Pakistan Navy is very satisfied with the performance of the F-22P frigate it bought from China and hopes to further the cooperation with the nation, said Admiral Noman Bashir, Pakistan’s Chief of Naval Staff. Two of the four F-22P frigates it ordered are already in service in Pakistan Navy, with the third one scheduled to be commissioned on September 15 this year. It is also expected that all the four ships will be in service by 2013. “We are very happy with the performance, and some technology is as good as in Western countries,” the China Daily quoted Admiral Noman Bashir, who visited China four times last year.

Pakistan also hopes to buy bigger ships with more firepower from China, such as 4,000 ton class frigates.

Pakistan has proposed to develop strategic maritime cooperation with China in both military and commercial sects, such as in fishery, economic development zones, and cargo, he said.

“The friendship between China and Pakistan is greater than the Himalayas and deeper than the Ocean. We already made progress in air force and other areas, now we should further and expand the cooperation in Navy, a broadly-based relation.”

Pakistan’s strategic geographical location in the Arabian Sea and its long coastline mean its possible contribution to the missions of China’s navy, particularly under the context of energy need from the Persian Gulf, said Pakistan officials.

Pakistan also has rich experiences in countering illegal activities at sea in order to maintain maritime security, four ships participated in anti-piracy operations, and there has been no act of maritime terrorism in its region in the recent past.

“We can provide facilities, ports, logistics, maintenance among other things (to Chinese navy),” said a Pakistan navy official.

Pakistan hopes to buy more ships from China, UK and France according to its development plan. (APP)

Pakistanis love Chinese frigate. Relations between China and Pakistan are not only strong, they are growing. Pakistan is acquiring the Chinese Type 054 frigates. The design and construction of these world-class come at a lower cost. The Pakistan domestic media covered the 054-type, and there is a lot of excitement in Pakistan.

Western military experts have also generated interest in 054-class escort. The United States “sea power” magazine editor 乔治麦凯伦 believe that China’s naval fleet strength of the Gulf of Aden to escort the composition of the transition from the first two destroyers, a destroyer to the second installment plus a 054-class escort, to the third all replaced by two 054-type frigate. This arrangement is definitely not random, and shows that the Chinese Navy began a comprehensive review of 054 ocean-type frigate’s combat capabilities. McLaren said: “China dare to let go and let the smaller tonnage commitment to convoy escort task, showing that China is full of confidence in its performance. In fact, more than 054 types of tonnage to the 051 early Chinese destroyer, with 15 in service 052 years ago, destroyer equal, long-distance capability is not weak. “

Hong Kong’s “Asia-Pacific Defense” magazine has written that China sent 054 class destroyer escort, as the main, one of the aims is to potential foreign customers, “advertising.” Previously, it is difficult to see the ocean on a cruise ship in China for the performance of Chinese manufacturers of warships propaganda in doubt, but now you can see the actual performance of the Chinese frigate. If the 054-type can accomplish very well escort action, it will greatly improve Chinese warships in the international market, the impression points, and thus attract a large number of customers
 
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054 series of ships will definitely be exported. China finally has something that can compete against krivak variants, la fayette variants and lcs variant in the world market. As always, Pakistan is an ideal customer. It's just a matter of finding the right design based on PN needs.

Just thinking about this, it'd make sense to me if the final 2 ships in this batch is a little different, since it could test out some technology they want to put on 054B class. Which probably would be another 2 to 3 years away.

The other thing is that they might be just building more of these because the Aden missions showed that they need a lot more 054 ships.
 
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