054/A FFG Thread II

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Tam

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snake65 said:
Interesting. Only 2 new type illuminators. I'm starting to doubt that they are illuminators at all. Rather midcourse update datalinks for missile with active radar terminal guidance.
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There are two more in the back with a slightly modified hanger housing. The hanger have their edges bezeled, and the other two arrays are placed there along with a raised thick wall that could be harboring the back end electronics. Take a look at the top of the hanger door closely and note the corner bezels that are not present in the other 054A.


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snake65 said:
Interesting. Only 2 new type illuminators. I'm starting to doubt that they are illuminators at all. Rather midcourse update datalinks for missile with active radar terminal guidance.
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There was a photo taken last year showing similar illuminators (radars?) on top of the helo hangar. I think it was @Tam who posted it.
 
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Zichan said:
There was a photo taken last year showing similar illuminators (radars?) on top of the helo hangar. I think it was @Tam who posted it.
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Yes. There are two above the bridge and two embedded at the hanger corners where were bezeled for it.

These illuminators are also meant to be matched for this radar. Red points to the illuminator and Blue to the search radar.

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Tam

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ChongqingHotPot92 said:
Is the radar capable of shooting out 5 different bands simultaneously, or only one band at time depending on the need?
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The illustration there is showing five different radars as part of a family of offerings, with the SR2410C as being only one member of this family. The other radars is an L-band, the S-band, a C-band, an X-band and a X/Ku band (dual band). I think the one installed on the Type 054A/P is the S-band, while the one installed on the C13B export corvettes would be the X-band. The other members, the L, C and X/Ku band, we have not seen it on other ships but that's dependent on orders.

I can't make out much of the text other than the range. They may read out something like this.

Strong Multifunction Ability
Strong Electronic interference counter ability
Mechanical scanning on the azimuth, electronic scanning on elevation
Distributed transmit and receive
Transmit and Receive Digital Beamforming
Stable Electronic Platform
Automatic Detect and Track
High Mission reliability, Easy operation

Fast Low, Medium and Surface target detection
Target classification
Target designation with visual display for gun, missile, laser and microwave weapons.

My take on this is that the first four (L, S, C, and X) are search radars, the L and S are for volume air search, the C and X are for surface search. The X/Ku band radar is interesting as this is an indication of a new fire control radar. Would be interesting if this shows on the 054B. A ship can potentially equip with either the S or L-band for its main air search, then either the C or X band for its secondary surface or low altitude search, then equip the X/Ku band for its FCR. If I were to take a 054A variant, I can equip the L or S band on top of the main mast replacing the Type 382 search radar, then C or X band on the second mast replacing the Type 364 surface search radar, then the X/Ku band replacing the Type 347 FCR.
 
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Tam said:
The illustration there is showing five different radars as part of a family of offerings, with the SR2410C as being only one member of this family. The other radars is an L-band, the S-band, a C-band, an X-band and a X/Ku band (dual band). I think the one installed on the Type 054A/P is the S-band, while the one installed on the C13B export corvettes would be the X-band. The other members, the L, C and X/Ku band, we have not seen it on other ships but that's dependent on orders.

I can't make out much of the text other than the range. They may read out something like this.

Strong Multifunction Ability
Strong Electronic interference counter ability
Mechanical scanning on the azimuth, electronic scanning on elevation
Distributed transmit and receive
Transmit and Receive Digital Beamforming
Stable Electronic Platform
Automatic Detect and Track
High Mission reliability, Easy operation

Fast Low, Medium and Surface target detection
Target classification
Target designation with visual display for gun, missile, laser and microwave weapons.

My take on this is that the first four (L, S, C, and X) are search radars, the L and S are for volume air search, the C and X are for surface search. The X/Ku band radar is interesting as this is an indication of a new fire control radar. Would be interesting if this shows on the 054B. A ship can potentially equip with either the S or L-band for its main air search, then either the C or X band for its secondary surface or low altitude search, then equip the X/Ku band for its FCR. If I were to take a 054A variant, I can equip the L or S band on top of the main mast replacing the Type 382 search radar, then C or X band on the second mast replacing the Type 364 surface search radar, then the X/Ku band replacing the Type 347 FCR.
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The latest fire control radar for the 054A may be the X/Ku band radar.
The strange thing is that China has adopted the new aesa fire control radar for its own use, but does not use the SR2410C as a search radar.
Pakistan uses the R2410C as a search radar. But there is no new aesa fire control radar. Maybe the hq-16 used by Pakistan is not the latest version used by China.
Considering that the illumination distance of MR90 is 45km, and the illumination distance of the new X band radar is 70 km.
Pakistan may use the HQ-16 with a range of 40km, while the new 054a uses the HQ-16C with a range of 70km that appeared at the Zhuhai Air Show.
 
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