054/A FFG Thread II

Ambivalent

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That's no wooden deck. That's probably a large piece of anti-skid with "wood" pattern.

The benches are not for the crew. They are for the workers. Those stations are "standing" stations as you can see by their height.

Anti-skid looks like very rough asphalt. It does not have a decorative pattern. One does not find anti-skid inside the ship either unless it is an aircraft hanger or the working deck of an unrep ship. Water tight spaces like the one depicted usually have linoleum tile deck coverings. Other photos of Chinese ships show what look like normal office chairs in their combat center where one would find chairs affixed to the deck of a US ship. China doesn't deploy enough to have learned these lessons.
Btw, when Harbin visited the US in 1998 or 1999 we were treated to an interior with plywood partitions and no ability to distill water whatsoever. The ship relied on it's replenishment ship for fresh water, the crew was rationed bottle water. Again, not the hallmarks of a blue water navy. You never see wood inside Japanese or American warships. If you read accounts of the US Navy in the Spanish American war their crews removed all interior wood before the battle of Manila Bay, tossing this over board. There was a similar purging of flammables from USN ships before WWII. Since then, they have not allowed an accumulation of flammables in their ships, to the point where they limit painting as that too is a fire hazard.
 
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crobato

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I'm seeing a wooden deck surface and thinking fire trap. I'm seeing benches on that deck that will, not can, but will, be sliding all over the place in any sort of weather. Where are the rotating chairs bolted to the deck? Not what one expects of a blue water navy.
The reason the USN and JMSDF have no decorative ceilings or paneling is their experience with damage control in WWII. Aside from it being a major fire threat, all of that decorative gingerbread must be chopped down with fire axes to gain control of any fire or to find the source of flooding. That material then clog the eductors of dewateringpumps. Japanese and American ships may be stark metal inside, with all manner of exposed wiring and pipes, but this is the lesson of WWII combat. No need to chop away at a false ceiling to dowse a fire on a wire run, or to find and plug a leaking pipe that is flooding a compartment. All damage is easily visible and readily accessed. There is minimal material to support a fire. Not pretty but it's a warship, not a cruise ship.

Sigh. That looks like linoleum, and those people in the pictures seem like technicians and not active duty personnel. Which means those benches are not part of the ship, but placed there for the testing personnel's convenience. This was all obviously during the point when the ship was still being constructed, the systems being installed and tested.
 

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a bunches of pictures from HD, the 3rd 054A from there. They also had a bunch of F-22P pictures.
 

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Sczepan

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dont know where to put this but South Sea Fleet. think its an 054A, 071, supply ship, and can't really make out the other two.
[qimg]http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/4303/xin48206060311003599483.jpg[/qimg]
there is the original (little bit bigger)
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lilzz

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Given the cost of 05A only $250Mil, PLAN would probably order at least around 10 of those just for SSF. Granted ths ship is not the best but it's a complete meal(air and sub defense) at a low cost.
 

tphuang

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detailed photos of the 3rd 054A from HD shipyard, these are weapon photos including the Type 730, the decoy launcher and the AK-176M
054ahd3type730jun12.jpg

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tphuang

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now pictures of the sensors and the satcom on the ship

054ahd3seaeaglejun12.jpg

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Jeff Head

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there is the original (little bit bigger)
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That grouping in the foreground...with the Type 52C DDG, the Type 071 LPD, and the Type 054A FFG in formation with the replenishment vessel is an excellent photo.

A clear, demonstrative depiction of the new, modern PLAN at sea.

...oh, and tphuang, as always, GREAT pics of the new 054A!
 
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