052C/052D Class Destroyers

TK3600

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No one is saying that, just that the possibilpity exists, it’s more likely they are just the new batch of 052Ds.

I think only Saudi is a possibility for 052 export, they are the only ones that can afford it. Pakistan doesn’t need it as their frigates are configured of the AAW role already.

Algeria would be fantastic, maybe in a few years, but Saudi could be desperate. The US are already threatening to remove Patriot, so having 4 or 5 of these alleged 052DE’s would be a neat solution if the US abandons them.

How much do members think a 052DE would cost a buyer?
so that image is just a rendering.
 

tphuang

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lyman2003 said that it already has order from a large country in the Middle East. Obvious answer here is Saudi Arabia with UAE and Algeria as other possibility.

Also, keep in mind the YJ-21E that they displayed which is like to be launched from the UVLS. Guancha folks made a point that YJ-21 can take various forms. It could be wider like the one on H-6K or thin like the YJ-21E they displayed depending on the customer requirement.
 

by78

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An update on the new batch being built in Dalian. The superstructure is taking shape, and indeed it looks different from previous 052Ds. Is that a different radar atop the main mast?

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ACuriousPLAFan

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There have been rumors of a "052DM" with modifications to the mast. It is possible that this might be it.
052DM was a myth concocted by pop3 to humiliate Weibo bloggers/CCTV military "experts" who copy his analysis wholesale without giving him credit.
It can't be called 052DM, 052DM is just ironic to 052DL.
Could the new batch of DDGs currently under construction in Dalian with different superstructures (and possibly even different radar sets and fire control suites) than the 052Ds and 052DLs be given the new designation 052E instead?

Unless the PLAN reverts to calling them 052D2s (lmao).
 
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Tam

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An update on the new batch being built in Dalian. The superstructure is taking shape, and indeed it looks different from previous 052Ds. Is that a different radar atop the main mast?

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I suspect it's a new radar to the ship, but not a new radar overall. We have already seen this radar somewhere.

It's might be and likely to be, the double sided AESA we have seen on the Type 075. This radar is meant to replace the Type 364 radar that sits on top of the 052D mast and is also seen on many ships. As I said before, the Type 364 radar is a surface search radar intended to be a sea skimmer antiship missile spotter. It is optimized to detect objects flying low over the water. This radar is used as an adjunct or secondary to the main radar. It is however old, having first appeared on the Type 052B, and uses a mechanical array. It is long overdue for a replacement which is what I expect this new AESA to be. For now I refer to this new radar as the Type 368.

It's far too early to fit real radars so you might expect dummies to take the place. For me it does not appear there are much changes to the superstructure if at all. Installation of the Type 368 would not require superstructure changes, unlike the installation of the four fixed X band AESA on the 055. But it's much cheaper and requires the least change. The new radar may also be heading to new Type 054A.

The appearance of the traditional mast arms used to hold the ESMs do not point to an integrated mast like on the 055. However we need to confirm what really are the superstructures seen on Jiangnan.
 
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