052C/052D Class Destroyers
- Thread starter Jeff Head
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Wow, just wow, why in such a hurry?
Doesn’t it just make economic sense to build in large batches and short timeframes? It is an efficient use of shipyard resources, which are precious because of the huge commercial orders China is constantly winning.
Speaking of which, unlike the previous bursts of military ship production before the pandemic when there were periods of slump in demand and orders for commercial ships, this time around there have been huge backorders for commercial ships of all kinds (containers, LNG) due to the supply chain shortage and disruption and energy crisis since COVID.
Not enough modern destroyers to accompany the 3 carriers and 4-8 lhd by 2021? If there are 4 assign to each carrier group, that is already half the current 52D
I think it's just about right for China to reach surface ship parity with the US by around 2030
6 052C + 44 052D + 12 055 will be a destroyer force of around 62 ships, which is a reasonable number compared to the US which is expected to reach around 70~80 arleigh burkes by 2030
We don't know. It could be just a bunch of smaller modules intended for the other five ships being worked on.
112, 113, 115 and 116 will be replaced by 055 with the same pennants.
101 to 116 will be 055. Question is 117, 118, and 119 will remain 052D or will they have their pennants changed (127, 128, 129), so that 117, 118 and 119 will be given to 055. PLAN is known to change pennants when it is inconvenient.
The MLU destroyers will stay a while longer but eventually get replaced by 052x, when their turn comes and after the remaining pennants run out. For example 160 and 166 will arrive first before 167 will be retired and pennant transferred to a new 052x. Then 168 and finally 169.
I think that retiring the old destroyers will be appropriate as they might cost more to operate than a 054B while having less capability and less comfortable for the crew.
At the end assuming 117 to 119 are transferred to 127 to 129, 120 to 139 will be all 052x, then 150 to 179. 140 to 149, 180 to 199 will remain reserved for another type of destroyer.
I am also suspecting that 052DL itself might be superceded by a further improved 052D batch, perhaps with another radar alteration. At one point we may also see the MLU of the 052C.
It doesn't look like a sixth ship to me in any way.
Say something about the SSN model pls
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