052/052B Class Destroyers

shen

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Actually, networking several identical coherent wave pulse dupler radars onboard different ships affords a unique potential capability that can't be matched by networking different radars operating in different drequency bands....


good point, but is the SAR technique capable of providing a height measurement to otherwise 2D radars?
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

good point, but is the SAR technique capable of providing a height measurement to otherwise 2D radars?


Accurate height measurement requires a large aperture in the vertical direction. Networking a bunch of ships together would only provide a large aperture in the horizontal direction.

But, you can potentially get around that problem if you can contrive to put the compatible radar also on an aircraft, and add the aircraft to the network of ships via datalink. This way you can create a large vertical aperture as well as a large horizontal aperture, and thus use SAR techniques to provide height measurement as well as precise bearing and ranging measurements.

Better yet, if you contrive to put compatible radars on satellites and network satellites with the ships and airplanes, you would get a truly extensive 3D synthetic aperture radar environment that might just be extremely tough for any stealth platform to beat. Basically you can work the network to get the beam to arrive at the stealth platform from an any direction within an entire hemisphere. The network can continuously and rapidly vary the phase angle of beams from each satellite until it finds a combination where stealth platform would reflect the resultant beam back to one of the receivers.

This is why I suspect the days of stealth as an unbeatable shield is numbered. The wisdom of making major sacrafices in other area to achieve superior stealth in any military equipment expected to remain in use for more than 10-20 years into the future would be a blunder.
 
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Skywatcher

Captain
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Not to mention the increasing versatility of ESA radars, and available computing powers.

Stealth aircraft won't like it very much either, when realtime hyperspectral imaging becomes a reality.
 

A.Man

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

I had an identical view 3 years ago.

t6u2.jpg
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Wow! Was this taken by you, Did you see if that third LCAC was there at the bottom left?

The minesweeper has moved to the top part of the yard
 

franco-russe

Senior Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Very nice.

And I have to correct myself: The minesweeper is a Type 081(A) WOZANG class. So they are now building that class both at Jiangnan and Wuhan.
 

A.Man

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Rather Than 055 DDG, According Goodboy's Video, The West Hall of Jiangnan Shipyard appeared to be an Another Ship

[video]http://www.56.com/u49/v_MTAyNTA0OTAy.html/1030_zcwshw.html[/video]
 

asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Rather Than 055 DDG, According Goodboy's Video, The West Hall of Jiangnan Shipyard appeared to be an Another Ship

[video]http://www.56.com/u49/v_MTAyNTA0OTAy.html/1030_zcwshw.html[/video]

Very interesting the question I have been asking for a while about this hallway, certainly that is not a large tonnage ship and certainly not a Type 052D

It could be a coast guard does this shipyard build coast vessals? Or it could be a FFG, a Type 054B?

Either way there is something going on in that hall way time will tell exactly what that is
 

chuck731

Banned Idiot
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

I had an identical view 3 years ago.

t6u2.jpg


What is the object inboard of the 2 052D destroyers? It looks like a barge but with warship like superstructures. Is it a equipment test facility?

Does the bow seen in the second building hull from left on the upper lefthand corner of the photo belong to another 052D?
 

Jeff Head

General
Registered Member
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

What is the object inboard of the 2 052D destroyers? It looks like a barge but with warship like superstructures. Is it a equipment test facility?
It seems to me we have seen vessels like that in the past, and this may be one of the survey vessels for the PLAN...or some kind of logisitcal support vessel. I am not sure but believe someone on the forum will probably see your question and elaborate.

Does the bow seen in the second building hull from left on the upper lefthand corner of the photo belong to another 052D?
That is in fact the fourth Type 052D, also seen here from ground level on another occassion:


fzcn.jpg

 
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