052/052B Class Destroyers

Blitzo

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Large 052D pictures via hongjian, cdf

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This is one pretty ship.
 

Blitzo

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PSA: if you think you have an important photo, check the last few pages of the relevant thread first, there's a good chance it may have already been posted :D
 

chuck731

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Where are the target illuminator or engagement radars on the 052D? Do the AESA panels also serve as illuminator or engagement radar? Does the Chinese missile use semi active homing, active homing, or track via missile?
 

joshuatree

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I wonder why they don't cover up the smoke stack.

Been saying that a while myself. Still not too late, they did post work on the 056 smokestack.

For the bridge, it seems they could have squeezed in one more pane of glass on each side of the four. This one last one would actually be angled towards the back port and back starboard. Think that could increase visual ability to the rear for a small price.
 

Insignius

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Where are the target illuminator or engagement radars on the 052D? Do the AESA panels also serve as illuminator or engagement radar? Does the Chinese missile use semi active homing, active homing, or track via missile?

Even on the 052C there was no seperate target illuminator for the HHQ-9 SAM. Most sources indicate that the HQ-9 is TVM, implying that the Type 346 AESA can handle the target illumination as well.

The missile equipped on the 052D would most probably be TVM or even active guided as well.
 
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

I wonder why they don't cover up the smoke stack.

Probably for a ship of this size a lot more will have to be made stealthy in addition to the smokestack to make a difference in overall stealthiness.

Also, just a guess, since this is an air defense ship maybe it is impractical to make it stealthy when its mission profile forces it to not be stealthy.
 

chuck731

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Probably for a ship of this size a lot more will have to be made stealthy in addition to the smokestack to make a difference in overall stealthiness.

Also, just a guess, since this is an air defense ship maybe it is impractical to make it stealthy when its mission profile forces it to not be stealthy.

Then why the faceted shape and the cover over boat davits?
 

Blitzo

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Even on the 052C there was no seperate target illuminator for the HHQ-9 SAM. Most sources indicate that the HQ-9 is TVM, implying that the Type 346 AESA can handle the target illumination as well.

The missile equipped on the 052D would most probably be TVM or even active guided as well.

Some sources do indicate it's TVM, although most sources also seem to mush the naval and land based version together (the latter is probably TVM, the former is less clear).

However we do no type 346 is an S band radar, and it is completely unsuited for terminal illumination. I don't think any SARH missile system uses S band illuminators, they are mostly X band. So simply from that, there is a very good chance HHQ-9 is ARH.
 
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