052/052B Class Destroyers

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Totoro

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

a fan made drawing of a concept, but I don't like it. it looks 170 meters long, displacement god knows what, probably a cruiser, not a destroyer. quite cluttered superstructure, not a bit cleaner than current ships in build. Doubious intake/exhaust positioning and design. Too large aft vls bay.

For a real next gen class i hope to see a 9-10 thousand tons displacement, not really longer hull, just wider than 052. Significantly redesigned and simplified superstructure, clean lines, as little nooks and crannies as possible, integrated sensor masts, etc. 80 or so vls would be quite enough. Perhaps only a single helo hangar would suffice, if there's a dedicated 054b asw frigate nearby, which it might be.
 
Mysterre

Mysterre

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

I would personally like to see a clean bow design with all the vents, capstans, chains, chocks, etc. hidden belowdecks, like what we see on many of the newer warship designs, e.g. DDX, Lafayette frigates and others.
 
MwRYum

MwRYum

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

A.Man said:
Made a 055 out of a 052C Hull?

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Fan-drawn stuff, but if the hype about the 055 DDG are valid at least 10%, then it can't be build from the 052C/D hull because it's too small; for it to have at least 1000t more in displacement, the hull need to be bigger/longer/wider, to reach the similar level as the Flight III Arleigh Burke class DDG.

Though I won't be surprised if the 052D is classified as the 055 in the end...
 
Blitzo

Blitzo

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

I think 055 was always meant to be a cruiser anyway. the 12,000 ton number has been oft repeated and I'd expect no less than 128 VLS onboard such a vessel. In that regard, this CG is well equipped, but I'd like to see a cleaner, more next generation design as well. This just looks like an enlarged 052D.

Also, I would consider a 10,000 ton DDG with only 80 VLS as woefully underequipped.

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MwRYum said:
Though I won't be surprised if the 052D is classified as the 055 in the end...
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... Wut?
 
Jeff Head

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

A.Man said:
It is official commissionning 150

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Very nice, and with the new pennant number config right out of the chute.

Will be interesting to see how quickly they commission the other three "C" vessels that have already been launched. I would think two more this year perhaps. Then the last "C" and the first "D" next year. We'll see. Time will tell.
 
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Totoro

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re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

one should keep in mind that the new chinese universal vls, as seen on 052d, is quite a bit bigger system than mk41. it is not realistic to compare them on one for one basis. chinese one can carry quite a bit larger missiles. it is only natural that the total number of cells is smaller. kinda like mk56 vls that zumwalts will use. it too is larger than mk41 and thus even a huge 14 thousand ton ship like zumwalt won't be carrying so many of them.

plus there are the requirements. there is very specific reason why us ships have so many vls cells. the role of usn is different from the role of plan. plan ships are not mean nor will they be meant to provide fire support in attacks on whole foreign countries. At best, they will provide strikes on limited areas like a few bases and smaller islands.
 
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