052/052B Class Destroyers

plawolf

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Well, NK could never hope to offer China an attractive price for them, so I think they are safely ruled out. ;)

Hugo Chaves might be interested in acquiring more toys to wave at their 'Imperialist opressors' :)rolleyes: I know), but I am not convinced the Sovs can venture that far without risking a break down.

Ok, but this being a bit too harsh, and I doubt China would want the negative American reaction over a few measly millions.

Looking around, the only countries remotely likely and able to take these Sovs would be Russia and India. I don't think either China or India can stomach the idea of such a deal, probably more likely for China to sell these to Taiwan. and the Russians are hardly going to be keen on buying back these tubs because of the negative image such a move will have, and also since they can just build more if they wanted them. The only way they would take the Sovs is if the PLAN sold them for next to nothing, but the PLAN is hardly
going to do that.

But if we suspend reality for a moment and imagine that someone like Pakistan can both afford and want the Sovs, it would be extremely easy seeing the PLAN positively snapping up such a deal.

Alas, it looks like the PN could barely afford to find the money to buy 054As on top of everything else they are getting of late, and the 054As are greatly cheaper to buy and operate and suits their needs far better.
 

MwRYum

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

If we look back at what the Sovrremenny packs and what the Chinese eventually re-engineered, you'd see what the Chinese actually wants - the SAM system that eventually developed into the HQ-16. The SS-N-22 were too little a force to reckon with (when compare to the Soviet doctrine), and probably too large even for platforms such as the 052C...you might say the Moskit is just gravy, though for a long time that gravy took the limelight.

Besides, to this day the only combat proven ASM are those with subsonic flight profile, with unparalleled flexibility in terms of "platform of choice".

Think that's enough stray off topic so I stop here.
 

Engineer

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

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What class is this? This doesn't look like 052C. It resembles a 054A, but there are still some difference.
 
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asif iqbal

Lieutenant General
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

why are they gold plated? hope the real sized versions are not as it will eat into PLAN budget!!!
 

MwRYum

Major
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

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What class is this? This doesn't look like 052C. It resembles a 054A, but there are still some difference.

The plates would've told us what this one is but it's reflected the flashlight, though the overall profile suggest that is a 054A FFG model.

And not necessary that's gold-plated, there're other metals that'd give a gold-ish look with or without treatment.
 

antiterror13

Brigadier
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Looks like an enlarged 054A with 16 anti-ship missiles midship instead of 8.

Do you think PLAN needs more anti-ship missiles or SAM ? .. my opinion PLAN has got enough anti-ship missiles, even type 22 itself has 8 C-803. I'd like to see 054A+ or B to have at least 48 SAM
 

delft

Brigadier
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Do I see a date of nearly two years ago in the right lower corner? If it was a 054A+ or 054B the first of that new version should by now be photographed.
 

no_name

Colonel
re: PLAN Type 052 Class Destroyer

Do you think PLAN needs more anti-ship missiles or SAM ? .. my opinion PLAN has got enough anti-ship missiles, even type 22 itself has 8 C-803. I'd like to see 054A+ or B to have at least 48 SAM

It's not what I think. I'm just pointing out what could be 4 quad AshM/cruise missile launcher boxes in the middle of the ship.

Whether there is any change to to number of SAMs carried it is inconclusive to tell from the pic alone. Also it looks like there is a platform step of some sort (for lack of better wording) where the VLS of the type 054A should be, so maybe this could be a ship dedicated for some other role but shares a large part of the basic type 054A hull.
 
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