Or maybe they have sold out and cannibalised their more current designs like T-72/80 during last 3 decades, so they now have no enough of them ready for activation, while T-62s were mostly not so hot commodity...
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Or maybe they have sold out and cannibalised their more current designs like T-72/80 during last 3 decades, so they now have no enough of them ready for activation, while T-62s were mostly not so hot commodity...
You might be thinking of Ukraine, who indeed sold most of their T-72's and left over T-80's.
Russia's export of T-80's was quite limited, less than 150 out of a production run of +5000 tanks, while for the export of T-72's, it might be around 500 in total from former soviet stocks and also new built(T-72's for export were still being made in the 90's by UVZ) but the majority of the T-72 out there are polish and czech made, not from Russia's stock.
400,000 euros for one missile? Yes, to shoot down drones with such missiles is five times the cost. And Amram is even more expensive, many times over.
Allright, so why not use these thousands of stored T-72s and T-80s instead? Another Putin's 6D chess strategy move?
The presence of one thing is not evidence of the absence of another. The world is not black or white my friend
I'm not wearing socks at the moment. That doesn't mean I don't have any socks. Make sense?
Different complexity of tank production. You are comparing the production of a small car (T62) and a Mercedes (T64) conventionally speaking. And that time was the time of the USSR. I have already written about it.
2. Neither the Leningrad nor the Omsk plant exists any more. Neither are there any more tank repair plants in Russia.
"Sturgeon must be cut back" say the Russians and their plans to produce 2000 Armats by 2020 are fantastic.
The maximum they can produce is 30 tanks a month and only T72 and its modifications. I'll believe it.
As I pointed out in other posts, there are indeed T-80's and T-72's being processed within the 103 Plant, not just T-62's, along with more T-72B3M being assembled in UVZ and the long trains of T-80's heading to Crimea before the Ukrainians suicidebombed the bridge.
They still were making more than 30 T-64 a month during the production run of the tank. More like 48 and by the 1980's, the T-72 were more advanced than the T-64.
T-72's aren't made anymore. Any T-72 coming out of UVZ comes from old Soviet stocks.
The only tank made brand new from the ground up is the T-90M.
The Leningrad plant is now manufacturing agricultural tractors. But the Omsk plant is producing tanks. They are in a contract to upgrade T-80BV tanks to T-80BVM status.
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No, maybe you are in Hawaii or Hainan, so you are not cold, but the Russians are in Ukraine, and it's "cold" there. So, either you don't have them or...?
@memfisa is saying that just because you see T-62’s getting deployed to Ukraine doesn’t mean the large stockpile of T-80 series tanks can’t be deployed or doesn’t exist at all. I believe the user is saying that you are using absence of evidence as proof, which is a logical fallacy.
Edit: that is not a logical fallacy. However it isn’t sufficient enough to prove your point.
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