The War in the Ukraine

tabu

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We have seen a few T-62's with thermals, and the M's already have laser rangefinders, that little box on top of the gun.

Isn't that a gun barrel curvature angle sensor?

The Kharkov plant was producing a maximum of 28 to 30 tanks per month. And that was in the best of times for the USSR. When there were plenty of workers with the right qualifications.
Now the Russians dream of upgrading 800 T62s in three years, with a bunch of ruined repair plants and no T62 specialists at Uralvagon, etc.
Good luck.
800 t62 tanks in three years in their conditions cannot get any serious upgrade. Cannibalisation and grid welding, that's all.

When a company switches to two or three shifts, people are not the main 'material'. Any production worker will tell you that.
Raw materials and consumables required for production must also be doubled or tripled, and the stock of all this good stuff is almost at an end. Let me remind you that the stock is a maximum of two quarters (those same thermal imagers and rangefinders).
 

gadgetcool5

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Another new wave of mobilization in Ukraine, Ukraine launches the 9th round of military mobilization for men under 60 years old.

In this new wave of mobilization, it seems that women were also summoned.


Ukraine has done 9 waves of mobilization, plus raising the military age to 60, plus summoning women, plus banning men from leaving the country.

Russia has done 1 wave of partial mobilization, while allowing men to leave the country.

Besides Western aid, this goes a long way to explaining why Ukraine is outperforming (pre-war) expectations.
 

sequ

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Regarding the Russian re-introducing T-62s to be in service, i hypothesized that it's due to Russians lack of "bridge" armored vehicles between AFV and MBT like light or medium tanks, the Russians do have light tanks like 2S25 Sprut SD but it's lack of number and possibly the unstable state of it using 125 mm, it's quite hard to mass produce it in substantial amount, so the easier economical solution is re-introducing T-62s which has better armament and easier to operate one.
Or their mainstay MBT's have suffered such great losses (more than 1300 T-64/72/80/90 lost) that they have to take out these old tanks out of the storage?

Dunno, but perhaps this may just be the case
 

sheogorath

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The spring mud didn't seem to hurt Ukraine so why should it now?
They still had a sizeable an functional IFV, tracked APCs and MBT fleet. They weren't relying on MRAPs, wheeled APC's and jihadimobiles back then.

Isn't that a gun barrel curvature angle sensor?
Nope, it is a laser rangefinder
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The Kharkov plant was producing a maximum of 28 to 30 tanks per month. And that was in the best of times for the USSR. When there were plenty of workers with the right qualifications.

Kharkov wasn't the USSR's main MBT production facility beyond the T-64, though, and it is a common misconception. The main MBT factories of the USSR were Nizhny Tagil(now UVZ, T-72, T-62), Leningrad Kirov Plant(now just Kirov, T-80) and Omsktransmash (T-80).

UVZ had a run of 22.700 T-62's between 1961 until 1975, which means it was producing an average of 135 tanks a month while also churning out T-55's and T-72's by the end of the 60's.


Raw materials and consumables required for production must also be doubled or tripled, and the stock of all this good stuff is almost at an end.
Lol, you say this as if Russia isn't a massive source of raw materials itself or that China, another source of massive quanities of raw material isn't a neighbor.

Let me remind you that the stock is a maximum of two quarters (those same thermal imagers and rangefinders).
Source: trust me, bro?.
 
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Russia threatens to shoot down US commercial satellites, "if used in conflict".
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Ukraine hits 12 fuel reservoirs in Shaktersk, Donetsk Oblast. Judging by how far it's behind Donetsk city, most likely hit by HIMARs.
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They don't think a Lviv front will happen. Suggest the Northeast if there's a new front.
 

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A Russian Ka-52 helicopter attacked an infantry fighting vehicle of the Ukrainian army with a Vikhr guided missile. Filming of the battle in the Svatovo area.


A Russian Su-35 fighter dropped bombs, presumably a FAB-250, and evaded a Ukrainian soldier's MANPADS missile. The location of the battle in Ukraine is unknown, the FAB-250 bombs seem to slow down, as the explosions occur at the end of the video.


The pilot of the Russian Su-34 fighter-bomber spoke about combat work in Ukraine. Each star on the body of the aircraft is 10 sorties. The main purpose of the sorties of the Su-34 crews is to search for the air defense of the Ukrainian army, which works sporadically, which is why it is difficult to detect.


The Ukrainian army began to use the German IRIS-T SLM air defense system. The medium-range air defense system IRIS-T SLM was created on the basis of an aviation missile by Diehl Defense. The air defense system began to be mass-produced in 2014, but so far it has not yet been adopted by Germany. The complex uses only the Sweden version and Egypt. Perhaps the supply of air defense systems to Ukraine will help the sales of the complex on the world market. The IRIS-T SLM air defense system is a cross between the Russian Buk-M3 and TOR air defense systems. The complex uses IRIS-T air-to-air missiles. They are equipped with an infrared homing head used at the final stage of the missile's flight, the missile's speed is Mach 3. The launch range of the IRIS-T SLM missile is 40 km, the reach in height is 20 km. Judging by expert opinions, the complexes are inferior in some ways and superior in some respects to the air defense systems of Russia. There are many opinions on them, but so far air defense systems are not very popular on the market. Among the shortcomings, the possibility of recapturing the target with an infrared head at low altitudes is noted, but all this is guesswork, since the complexes did not participate in hostilities. The standard equipment of the air defense system includes a command post, radar and launchers with anti-aircraft missiles. The cost of the IRIS-T SLM complex is 178 million euros, missiles are 400 thousand euros.

 

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This mention of US satellites seems dangerous at first glance to me. It opens the door to extending this to aircraft flying in NATO airspace directly involved in the conflict by gathering intelligence and supplying it to a party of the conflict as well.

At the same time, IMHO, it is a logical response to further escalation from Washington and it's vassal states in this conflict, and may be a sign that Russia does actually have a spine afterall, but I'll wait to see how it plays out.

Maybe one satellite as a very serious warning shot and evaluate. People need to understand how close to the brink our corrupted officials have pushed us and this would be incredibly difficult for the media to twist into more i stand with Ukraine nonsense. People inherently and instinctually recognize danger.

I think Russia still owes the US a bloody nose for the airstrike on Russians in Syria, so this would be right up that alley, and I don't think Biden has many options nor time left, looking at wavering support here at home for this proxy war amidst insane inflation, so many dozens of unsolved existential societal issues and an increasingly disgruntled population all of it sold as stopping Russia while having the opposite effect. Many of us in the west may be zombies but we aren't retarded by any means
 
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Anlsvrthng

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This mention of US satellites seems dangerous at first glance to me. It opens the door to extending this to aircraft flying in NATO airspace directly involved in the conflict by gathering intelligence and supplying it to a party of the conflict as well.

At the same time, IMHO, it is a logical response to further escalation from Washington and it's vassal states in this conflict, and may be a sign that Russia does actually have a spine afterall, but I'll wait to see how it plays out.

Maybe one satellite as a very serious warning shot and evaluate. People need to understand how close to the brink our corrupted officials have pushed us

I think Russia still owes the US a bloody nose for the airstrike on Russians in Syria, so this would be right up that alley, and I don't think Biden has many options nor time left, looking at wavering support here at home for this proxy war amidst insane inflation, so many dozens of unsolved existential societal issues and an increasingly disgruntled population
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The downing of the Iranian passanger plane by USA destroyer could be good precedent.


The USA and Iran was in normal relationship, there was no war between them, and the USA destroyer shoot down the Iraninan plane because they think that it transmitting the coorindates of the ship to a nearby missile launch site. or whatever iditoic reasons the crew found for they stupid moves.


Anyway, Russia has way more reasons , and proofs to shoot down every satelite that producing targeting data for Ukraine, than the USA had when they killed 290 civilian in Iranian airspace because they lacked the proper training and skills to operate the weapons and systems .
 
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