Discussing Biden's Potential China Policy

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AndrewS

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I think sooner or later a disaster of epic proportions are going to hit the USA like never before and in that time the world will not only turn there backs on America, but they many even hasten the downfall to ensure that no one will ever get in the way of progress with wars and sanctions. The USA is going to be an example to all of the world of what happens when a nation pushes the world too far and thinks that no consequences will come

It's possible this will happen, but it's wishful thinking, so you can't realistically plan on this assumption.
 

escobar

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This is terrible news. US really wants to create an enemy out of China. What an utterly pointless, harmful and unfortunately expected approach.
Want to create ? They have already explicitly declared CH is an enemy. It is CH gov that says they want mutual respect, equal treatment, or this kind of inanity.
 

quantumlight

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Want to create ? They have already explicitly declared CH is an enemy. It is CH gov that says they want mutual respect, equal treatment, or this kind of inanity.
America always took China to be the enemy, only difference was up until a few years ago they had always assumed it was a foregone conclusion that when the time was ripe they would be able to harvest China easily without any resistence or failing that it was assumed/assured that at least they would be able to take care of the China problem the same way they took care of the Japanese threat in the 80s... their calculus that opening up to China would convert China to Western sphere (democrazy & freedumb) and be a net boon to US hegemony (aka China happily being America's cheap factory forever, never daring to climb the value chain nor tech ascension etc) turned out to be wrong, hence the next stage in the playbook was the onslaught of an American lead cold war 2.0 against China...

Yes China has been naive about the speed and length America is willing to go to remove any peer or near peer competitor, especially one that for the first time in US history was a nonCaucasin party... and at least under the Trump admin/era it had clearly dwelved into the realm of scorched earth in that US would rather infect the whole world with these fires and burn it all down rather than "allow" China to continue to develop and advance....

So yes China should be less naive, much more paranoid, and be more fully prepared both mentally and positionally for all coming contigencies... but at least so far it hasn't done what America expected which was an easy capitulation giving USA an easy win without having to fight... which America had gotten used to for the last 70 years....

Easy mode for China is over, but the same is true for the US...

If America wants to OWN the 21st century, it has to actually start working for it from now on instead of expecting China just to roll over and hand it to them, can no longer rest on their WWII wins for a hundred years after the fact and expect the world never to change, Qing made that mistake and China paid for it dearly
 
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Orthan

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My guess is .... nothing, or nothing important.
I tend to agree with you. I dont think that other nations will join the US in tech sale restrictions to china. They tend to need china more than the US does, and what would they gain with it?

But i can see the US adding more of its own restrictions to tech exports to china.
 

4Runner

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With COVID ushering in permanent work from home and remote VPN workers... does it really matter if a company's employees are in the same town, state or even country?

US can simply hire bunch of remote workers, cherry pick the most talented ones, pay them a lot of money via quantitative easing dollar status etc, and then NOT give them a VISA or citizenship or anything of that sort... would be a best of all worlds where they get the talent but don't have to suffer the long term consequences of immigration etc

They wouldn't even have to issue these workers laptops or worry about stealing secrets etc... just do full on VDI where they connect via the browser (not even have to install a citrix/vmware/etc thinclient anymore) so the data always resides in the US, there is never a chance of any breach and can use AI software to detect any abnormal behavior etc etc... so the whole "you need a US top secret clearance" is really bogus in the 21st century, just have VDI connection to everything and use AI software to monitor all workers 24/7/365

If US adopts this, China would be at disadvantage because China cannot print dollars to pay high wages since no petrodollar hegemony in its favor
You have a point. But not that simple. Remote workers can get 80% grunt IT works done well. But definitely not for top %20 innovative works. Exception abounds, granted. The best solutions integration work cannot be done well by a group of remote strangers no matter their talent levels. So are vertical breakthroughs. If US buys into what you just said, the results would be sad.
 
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