Please disregard my last message. I didn't realize that report for 2025 was released couple of days ago.
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Is it just racism or what? why do a lot of ASEAN people want to go against their largest trading partner? Also, Vietnamese wants to be with America... really? do they have no heart for their ancestors who fought against Americans. What is modern Vietnam even teaching their people for them to hate China so much.Please disregard my last message. I didn't realize that report for 2025 was released couple of days ago.
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The trend for Vietnam and Singapore is more alignment with China, less with US. For smaller countries, some pressure and a few million dollars of trade is enough for complete turnarounds, for example, Solomon Islands.
Maybe they are bitter because of the 1979 invasion. I think someone explained to me that Vietnamese view 1979 as an act of betrayal and that the reason they hold stronger grudge against China than US/France is because China was supposed to be a brotherly, fellow communist country. I don't know how true that is. Maybe someone has different explanation.
It complicated but can sum up in few points:
1/ white worshipped: while a white person come in Vietnam they will call by "Ông" which mean Mister in English. Meanwhile Chinese is call "thằng" which just use for kid or some lower status person. And some of my uncle and aunt still think chocolate and candy in US army ration is best in the world just because when they are kid they get few of them when army Jeep drive by those soldiers throw some candy out like human throw food for chickens.
2/ Ignorant and arrogant: some of Vietnamese think China still stuck in Mao era. Which mean million Chinese dead for starving everyday and peoples drive bicycles to sweatshop working 12 hour a day.
3/ Pure hatred.
This is so dumb, lol but hey, totally winning
A lot of history about Vietnam around this period is sadly distorted because it is viewed through the eyes of humans who like marvel movies instead of objective reality.
Vietnam beat off the evil France and USA. Therefore they are the MLK/Mandela of Asia and have to be heroes like Iron Man right?
After beating off the USA, Vietnam started getting big-headed and imposing its will on those "lesser" SEA nations around it. Nothing new btw, Vietnam used its Chinese influenced system in the past to be more developed to crush champa and beat up Thailand. A lot of people esp westerners think Vietnam were just some simple ricer farmers when they were in fact a fully fledged dynasty with an emperor more than capable of taking on big guys never mind SEA. No need to pamper them like children.
So thats why China decided to go in to supposedly teach it a lesson (or rather curb its influence in SEA). Another misleading thing is technically the "war" didn't stop in 1979 since that was only a few weeks when in fact it went on till the late 1980s. And during the 1980s China learnt to better deal with Vietnam which people especially westerners tend to overlook. Btw the battle of Laoshan in 1984 showed even with huge ass forests in mountains, artillery is still the king of battle.
Thats how China sees it at least. Real history is a lot more ugly and people we want to see as good guys might not be so innocent.
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It all comes down to this: INNATE RACISM.
Here’s a personal story. Whenever I’m in Canada, I visit a gym where I met this Vietnamese guy—a shameless braggart who flaunts his infidelity. He didn’t know I’m a proud, card-carrying Wumao, pegging me instead as one of those self-loathing types, the so-called HANJIANS.
To him:Chinese = troublemakers who won’t adapt to Canadian life
French = a noble language, free of colonial baggage or brutality
Japan = a land of brilliant tech and admirable people
U.S. = flawed yet impressive.
He loves boasting that Vietnam triumphed over America
India = the wave of students and migrants is a strength (Canadians see the irony there)China’s success—despite the stereotypes and racist assumptions—grates on someone like him, raised to despise all things Chinese.
Changing that kind of entrenched bias takes time, and often, it takes something jarring, like war, to force a rethink. Truth is, humans are primal; we’re drawn to power and swayed by force.