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Final ruling is that ByteDance can't divest the algo.
It won't be in the interest of Beijing to tell Chinese companies what to do with their US operations.
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Final ruling is that ByteDance can't divest the algo.
It won't be in the interest of Beijing to tell Chinese companies what to do with their US operations.
The problem comes down to Trump is fully aware how much influence TikTok has from his own campaign, banning it only mean TikTok can no longer do business in the US but does not prevent Americans from accessing TikTok global unless they put up an ISP block as India did, and censoring a platform that's accessible in Canada, Mexico, Europe and everywhere else is a whole different legal issue.
Without firewall US will still be fully subject to TikTok influence but will be stripped of all ability to influence others on it, including by Trump himself. To fully implement the ban he will have to defend censoring TikTok at ISP level and that fight is lot harder than commercial ban. Of course there's also hudnreds of billion in business tied to TikTok so that's a lot of angry people too.
Finally even if they do enforce an ISP block, because TikTok is already so ingrained in the US population, its just statistics that a signficiant number of people will start looking for ways around it, that gives China something even better than an algorithm that control US news feed, it gives China a flag to rally American dissidents around.
The US bill forcing the TikTok sale or ban explicitly stated:
Therefore, an IP licensing deal is plausible, but it can't entail ByteDance controlling or updating the algorithm for TikTok on an active basis. Basically no persistent or ongoing cooperation.
That's completely reasonable, and we're in 100% agreement there.
Does or should the United States government have any jurisdiction over foreign citizens transacting United States Dollars or killing American citizens on non-American soil?
Beijing defines the scope of "algorithm"
If I were them I’d sell an algorithm that actually promotes Chinese propaganda content and watch the tech bros fumble for a few months as they figure it out.
US does not
If you think they should then China should also have jurisdiction over American citizens, which in this case would mean American citizens must comply with Chinese laws when it comes to ByteDance.
Can't Uncle Sam just make Apple and Google drop TikTok from their respective app stores in the US in an instant, or even globally if they wanted to apply pressure?
That will immediately prevent US TikTok users from updating TikTok, and without the capacity for updates, will the user experience remain sustainable?
I imagine users could in theory download TikTok's setup file directly from TikTok's website, and install it manually.
However, what percentage of users will go to the trouble of doing so?
More than half of Americans are on TikTok and are on it for hours each day, do you think they'll stop doing that just because they have to visit a website to update their app? Apple is additionally subject to retaliation from China for doing anything outside US.
But even that point is moot, you don't need the app to view TikTok, they can and probably will just ban all American users from posting for their own safety. US government gave China an excuse to ban all American influencers, might as well use it.
Because everyone knows that they along with their European vassals are going to push it all the way through. Next thing it will be batteries, ev cars, technologies IP etc. I am sure they are retarded enough to demand that Black Myth IP must be sold to an American game company because it is a threat to national stupidity. Give them an inch and they will demand an mile.