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[Overbom]

The whole thing is becoming an annual tradition and frankly is tiresome at this point. Just grow a pair and blocking the app.

They really want to get it and then hand it over to their tech bros and then expand US propaganda even more.

China should say no, let them force block it and then let them build a digital network block for it in the US, let's call it, The Great (Fire)Wall

 

[HereToSeePics]

"Hey! Look at me! I'm still the big guy here!" An old frail guy who had lost much of his fortune yells while waving a stick in front of the dragon.

British carrier deployment to ‘assert rule of law’ to China

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Instead of China, maybe London should send those carriers to Greenland to "assert rule of law" to their papa America instead.

Not sure the UK carriers will make it that far without

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.

 

[Randomuser]

How did we go from pioneering 56 gender orientations to this?

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It is almost as if the whole thing is invented to keep the plebs mad at each other instead of the gaping assholes raining shit down 24/7.

If you believe 4chan conspiracies

 

[ficker22]

But the securitron bots are all Chinese and they are too shortsighted to be Mr. House.

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What would the choosen people say????

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[Biscuits]

What would the choosen people say????

ATTA GANAV ATTA GANAV!

Jewish memri tv isn't real Jewish memri tv can't hurt you:

Jewish memri tv:

 

[zyklon]

no, Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok.

China has export control for its recommendation algorithm

That's actually quite interesting !

The US legislation forcing the TikTok ban-or-sale actually has

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controlled or even updated by ByteDance.

Basically TikTok's new owners will have to use algorithms they own and control independently of ByteDance.

However, algorithms derived from ByteDance's original IP and no longer under its operational control might suffice as well, assuming it's actually possible to apply and secure the requisite export licenses under Chinese law.

Though imaginably what's exportable might be "watered down" like the Type 54A/P frigates exported to Pakistan . . .

And most importantly, force seizure (that's what this law is about) of Chinese assets in such a public manner especially, would be a gigantic public humiliation for China. That's a huge no-no. Imagine all the BRI countries now getting brave about no honouring their debts or stealing Chinese assets...

I do agree optics and precedents may indeed matter more here. Too bad for ByteDance's founders and TikTok's employees.

 

[RedBaron]

No because Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok or spin off or whatever. It's either the law is stuck down or TikTok is banned from the US. No other option is possible

I've read some reports that Trump could potentially refuse to enforce ban. He did say he has a plan to save TikTok without elaborating further. Why he suddenly wants to save it when during his 1st term he wanted to get rid of it, I don't know. Ban is probably the likeliest scenario.

China has passed regulations requiring its government to bless the export of technology like TikTok's algorithm, meaning any sale would need the approval of Beijing.
For years, China has said TikTok is not for sale, and it has publicly maintained that position.
Yet some analysts say it is possible that China will agree to the sale of TikTok's U.S. business if the country can get something out of it, like trade concessions from the incoming Trump administration.
While such horse-trading remains speculative, national security experts in touch with Chinese regulators have told NPR that Chinese officials appear to be warming up to this possibility.

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I hope those reports are false. Better to face a ban than being strong-armed into selling. That would be rather humiliating for China.

 

[proelite]

no, Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok.

China has export control for its recommendation algorithm

And most importantly, force seizure (that's what this law is about) of Chinese assets in such a public manner especially, would be a gigantic public humiliation for China. That's a huge no-no. Imagine all the BRI countries now getting brave about not honouring their debts or stealing Chinese assets...

Byte is not allowed to sell the algo.
That doesn't preclude an arrangement where the US operations are divested and the TikTok US pays to use the same algo ( using the same IP) or another algo.

 

[Biscuits]

I've read some reports that Trump could potentially refuse to enforce ban. He did say he has a plan to save TikTok without elaborating further. Why he suddenly wants to save it when during his 1st term he wanted to get rid of it, I don't know. Ban is probably the likeliest scenario.

It makes sense since somehow US is quite scared of doing it. I guess it's too on the nose and basically invalidates the argument that China is more censor happy than US.

That sentiment change could have massive unintended consequences. Which I would believe is what scares them.

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I hope those reports are false. Better to face a ban than to be strong-armed into selling. That would be rather humiliating for China.

Without the algorithim or IP it's just the brand name. I don't think the idea of making US only tiktok is necessarily bad, as long as they sell it for a lot. Then again US doesn't really have much valuables to pay with currently.

 

[iewgnem]

On the other hand, how do you feel about the US government enforcing American laws upon Chinese citizens (e.g. Huawei's Meng Wanzhou)?



Having just skimmed the

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, which is the legislation mandating TikTok's sale-or-ban, I'm of the impression that a region specific divesture of TikTok is the theoretically feasible, at least per the bill's verbiage.

Granted, any sort of divestment on the part of ByteDance will inevitably be complex and difficult to negotiate and consummate not only due to the value and popularity of TikTok as a platform, but given the political intricacies in play.

To be more specific, what the crux of the matter might be here is

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on whether divesture by ByteDance materially occured.

However, as you can imagine, such presidential determinations are subject to a great deal of executive discretion. So really whether a sale can go through or not will largely depend on the whims and preferences of the sitting US president.

ByteDance is a Chinese company and Meng is a Chinese citizen, only Chinese laws apply to Chinese companies and citizens inside China and American laws are irrevelant to non-Americans not in America. Chinese laws prohibt ByteDance from any sale and as a Chinese company that law is final and supeseed all other laws. If US law does not allow them to operate in the US ByteDance will leave the US, that's the limit of US authority. Note it does not mean ByteDance have to prevent Americans from accessing TikTok after they leave America.

If that's too complicated for you, let me simplify it more: what Americans want is irrevelant, only what China wants matter and China already gave the final ruling.