Miscellaneous News

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
So Zuck isn't asking Trump to broker Meta's acquisition of a controlling stake in TikTok, or a spinoff of TikTok representing its assets in the US and certain other markets?
No because Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok or spin off or whatever. It's either the law is stuck down or TikTok is banned from the US. No other option is possible
 

zyklon

New Member
Registered Member
No because Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok or spin off or whatever. It's either the law is stuck down or TikTok is banned from the US. No other option is possible

If Bytedance is barred from selling TikTok, then why wasn't TikTok shuttered by the US government last year? What would have been the point of letting TikTok operate for another whole year?
 

iewgnem

Junior Member
Registered Member
If Bytedance is barred from selling TikTok, then why wasn't TikTok shuttered by the US government last year? What would have been the point of letting TikTok operate for another whole year?
1 - Because Biden didn't want to lose the election
2 - A lot of Americans are delusional and really do think they don't have to comply with Chinese laws
3 - Dems want to sabotage Trump
4 - Banning Americans from posting doesn't mean Americans can't access, that you'd need a great firewall which is a whole different legal issue.
5 - Beijing has Elon on a leash and Elon is POTUS so who knows how long it'll last
 

tokenanalyst

Brigadier
Registered Member
If Bytedance is barred from selling TikTok, then why wasn't TikTok shuttered by the US government last year? What would have been the point of letting TikTok operate for another whole year?
I don't think Bytedance is barred from selling TikToK, it just doesn't make economic sense, that is their money making machine, why they will sell it to an US competitor? Is like Apple being forced to sell their smartphone division to a Chinese company or being barred from selling in China or Google forced to sell their search engine to Baidu, is ridiculous, it makes no sense.
The US is an important market but selling TikTok means that US buyer will not only have access to the US market but also the entire globe, Bytedance would lose a pretty beefy annual revenue.
 

vincent

Grumpy Old Man
Staff member
Moderator - World Affairs
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!

Which vault tech experiment would you recommend for him when the nukes start flying?
A Chinese article I read has a theory why the world elites are so gunho on AI. When the western civilization ends, there is not guarantee the elite’s security details will not turn on them since fiat money and material wealth is useless at that point. That is why the elites want to develop AI to replace the human guards. AI in theory will not turn on them.
 

siegecrossbow

General
Staff member
Super Moderator
A Chinese article I read has a theory why the world elites are so gunho on AI. When the western civilization ends, there is not guarantee the elite’s security details will not turn on them since fiat money and material wealth is useless at that point. That is why the elites want to develop AI to replace the human guards. AI in theory will not turn on them.

But the securitron bots are all Chinese and they are too shortsighted to be Mr. House.

1736618608977.jpeg
 

Biscuits

Major
Registered Member
But the securitron bots are all Chinese and they are too shortsighted to be Mr. House.

View attachment 143115
This ball drone is bigger than the usual ones.

Also interesting that it's not used yet by Russia? Maybe the tech isn't mature enough.

Because a little ball like this zipping through the contact line doesn't even need to be armed, just having the camera will let it gather intel on enemy defenses. I've seen some clips of Russians using high speed buggies to hit a position before defenders can react.
Obviously the ball should not be nearly as competent at fighting as a human, but unlike a human, you can lose 1000 balls to storm a trench and it would still be a resounding victory.
 

zyklon

New Member
Registered Member
2 - A lot of Americans are delusional and really do think they don't have to comply with Chinese laws

On the other hand, how do you feel about the US government enforcing American laws upon Chinese citizens (e.g. Huawei's Meng Wanzhou)?

I don't think Bytedance is barred from selling TikToK, it just doesn't make economic sense, that is their money making machine, why they will sell it to an US competitor? Is like Apple being forced to sell their smartphone division to a Chinese company or being barred from selling in China or Google forced to sell their search engine to Baidu, is ridiculous, it makes no sense.
The US is an important market but selling TikTok means that US buyer will not only have access to the US market but also the entire globe, Bytedance would lose a pretty beefy annual revenue.

Having just skimmed the
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
, which is the legislation mandating TikTok's sale-or-ban, I'm of the impression that a region specific divesture of TikTok is the theoretically feasible, at least per the bill's verbiage.

Granted, any sort of divestment on the part of ByteDance will inevitably be complex and difficult to negotiate and consummate not only due to the value and popularity of TikTok as a platform, but given the political intricacies in play.

To be more specific, what the crux of the matter might be here is
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
on whether divesture by ByteDance materially occured.

However, as you can imagine, such presidential determinations are subject to a great deal of executive discretion. So really whether a sale can go through or not will largely depend on the whims and preferences of the sitting US president.
 

Overbom

Brigadier
Registered Member
I don't think Bytedance is barred from selling TikToK, it just doesn't make economic sense, that is their money making machine, why they will sell it to an US competitor? Is like Apple being forced to sell their smartphone division to a Chinese company or being barred from selling in China or Google forced to sell their search engine to Baidu, is ridiculous, it makes no sense.
The US is an important market but selling TikTok means that US buyer will not only have access to the US market but also the entire globe, Bytedance would lose a pretty beefy annual revenue.
no, Bytedance is not allowed to sell TikTok.

China has export control for its recommendation algorithm

And most importantly, force seizure (that's what this law is about) of Chinese assets in such a public manner especially, would be a gigantic public humiliation for China. That's a huge no-no. Imagine all the BRI countries now getting brave about no honouring their debts or stealing Chinese assets...
 
Top