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1. Chairman Mao was right, women hold up half the sky.

2. Given all the difficulties with the current US-China relations, kind of different to read something this upbeat, lol.

3. You know what is the best way to handle the Americans at this point in time? The best thing for China to do is give them a beating. Does not matter what, just beat the shit out of them, in things such as 5G or NEVs. Next, semi-conductors.
 

Sardaukar20

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Reflecting on Ismail Haniyeh's assassination. It's clear to see the clear gulf in effectiveness of the military and intelligence between Israel and the Arab world. Israel can regularly assassinate it's targets in Iran, Lebanon and even outside of the Middle East. But in return, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, or the Houthis can only lob rockets and missiles that causes negligible material damage and casualties to the Israelis. They claimed that they have hurt Israeli prestige, but is Israel really that bothered? They still continue to bomb and kill who they like.

When the Houthis send dozens of drones and missiles to Israel, 9/10 of the time, they don't hit anything, or when they do hit something, the damage is mostly symbolic. When the Israelis send an airstrike, they hit hard, leveling buildings, blowing up oil depots, and killing lots of people, and they often kill important people too. There is no contest as to who can inflict the bigger damage. The Muslim resistance have to reflect on this objectively and make improvements. They should cut down on regularly declaring victory for every rocket or projectile that is thrown at Israel's direction. Symbolism doesn't always translate into damage. Effectiveness does.

Ismail Haniyeh himself is not totally innocent. This guy is a product of the disunity in the Muslim world. His organisation, Hamas was created by the Israelis to divide the unity of the Palestinian resistance. He is a member of the treacherous Muslim brotherhood, regularly commuting around Turkey and Qatar. In 2012, he was active in the Arab Spring. He betrayed the Assad government in Syria, and organised the Palestinian refugees in Syria to fight against government and terrorize ordinary Syrians.
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Muslims around the world spend so much more time and blood killing each other than their supposed nemesis of Israel and the West. The Muslim brotherhood continue to cry crocodile tears for the Palestinians, but would jump at any other enemy that the West designates as their enemy. They'll jump at the opportunity and fight Syrians, Serbs, and Russians, but would hide away from any fights with the Israelis. As long as the Muslim world cannot get their act together, they'll continue to get slapped around by their nemesis.
 

Arij Javaid

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Reflecting on Ismail Haniyeh's assassination. It's clear to see the clear gulf in effectiveness of the military and intelligence between Israel and the Arab world. Israel can regularly assassinate it's targets in Iran, Lebanon and even outside of the Middle East. But in return, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, or the Houthis can only lob rockets and missiles that causes negligible material damage and casualties to the Israelis. They claimed that they have hurt Israeli prestige, but is Israel really that bothered? They still continue to bomb and kill who they like.

When the Houthis send dozens of drones and missiles to Israel, 9/10 of the time, they don't hit anything, or when they do hit something, the damage is mostly symbolic. When the Israelis send an airstrike, they hit hard, leveling buildings, blowing up oil depots, and killing lots of people, and they often kill important people too. There is no contest as to who can inflict the bigger damage. The Muslim resistance have to reflect on this objectively and make improvements. They should cut down on regularly declaring victory for every rocket or projectile that is thrown at Israel's direction. Symbolism doesn't always translate into damage. Effectiveness does.

Ismail Haniyeh himself is not totally innocent. This guy is a product of the disunity in the Muslim world. His organisation, Hamas was created by the Israelis to divide the unity of the Palestinian resistance. He is a member of the treacherous Muslim brotherhood, regularly commuting around Turkey and Qatar. In 2012, he was active in the Arab Spring. He betrayed the Assad government in Syria, and organised the Palestinian refugees in Syria to fight against government and terrorize ordinary Syrians.
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Muslims around the world spend so much more time and blood killing each other than their supposed nemesis of Israel and the West. The Muslim brotherhood continue to cry crocodile tears for the Palestinians, but would jump at any other enemy that the West designates as their enemy. They'll jump at the opportunity and fight Syrians, Serbs, and Russians, but would hide away from any fights with the Israelis. As long as the Muslim world cannot get their act together, they'll continue to get slapped around by their nemesis.
True. If Iran or Hezbollah has any dignity, they should pull the trigger and start firing high precision missiles into military targets inside Tel Aviv which can bypass Iron Dome.

Hezbollah and Iran doesn't have a conventional force to take on Israel. No one does in the middle east except for turkey. However, They do have a large capacity of capable high precision missiles that can level Israel. Since Israel is extremely strong. The impact of missiles tend to be huge.

That's how they stand a chance.

If the war between Iran and Israel starts and US gets involved. I expect Russia and china to use their productivity might and supply iran with arms. West is already running low so we'll see how it goes.
 

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Reflecting on Ismail Haniyeh's assassination. It's clear to see the clear gulf in effectiveness of the military and intelligence between Israel and the Arab world. Israel can regularly assassinate it's targets in Iran, Lebanon and even outside of the Middle East. But in return, Iran, Hezbollah, Hamas, or the Houthis can only lob rockets and missiles that causes negligible material damage and casualties to the Israelis. They claimed that they have hurt Israeli prestige, but is Israel really that bothered? They still continue to bomb and kill who they like.

When the Houthis send dozens of drones and missiles to Israel, 9/10 of the time, they don't hit anything, or when they do hit something, the damage is mostly symbolic. When the Israelis send an airstrike, they hit hard, leveling buildings, blowing up oil depots, and killing lots of people, and they often kill important people too. There is no contest as to who can inflict the bigger damage. The Muslim resistance have to reflect on this objectively and make improvements. They should cut down on regularly declaring victory for every rocket or projectile that is thrown at Israel's direction. Symbolism doesn't always translate into damage. Effectiveness does.

Ismail Haniyeh himself is not totally innocent. This guy is a product of the disunity in the Muslim world. His organisation, Hamas was created by the Israelis to divide the unity of the Palestinian resistance. He is a member of the treacherous Muslim brotherhood, regularly commuting around Turkey and Qatar. In 2012, he was active in the Arab Spring. He betrayed the Assad government in Syria, and organised the Palestinian refugees in Syria to fight against government and terrorize ordinary Syrians.
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Muslims around the world spend so much more time and blood killing each other than their supposed nemesis of Israel and the West. The Muslim brotherhood continue to cry crocodile tears for the Palestinians, but would jump at any other enemy that the West designates as their enemy. They'll jump at the opportunity and fight Syrians, Serbs, and Russians, but would hide away from any fights with the Israelis. As long as the Muslim world cannot get their act together, they'll continue to get slapped around by their nemesis.
I think it says a lot that Iran doesn't get J-10s or Russian equivalents etc. We can see that throughout the Palestine war, Iran was not eager to fight, because they would rather use proxies than fulfil the all out battle that would be more beneficial in the long run to both Iran and China.

China should not forget that Islamic world in its current form is not one of us. Only a few years ago, they killed more than 200 Chinese and were bragging, only the rapid defeat of xinjiang terrorists shut them up for good.

Muslim world are at most Harkonnens that can be used to overwhelm Israel by numbers, while PLA/Russians disguised as them carry out the key killing blows, against air defenses, officials, US navy ships etc.

Not only does the present situation offer a chance for China to get rid of the longstanding Zionist thorn in the middle east and fulfil the promise made by Mao to the Palestinian people, but the "Muslim" world, exhausted by throwing their people to take down Israel, will end up more reliant than ever on China and Russia.
 

Arij Javaid

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I think it says a lot that Iran doesn't get J-10s or Russian equivalents etc. We can see that throughout the Palestine war, Iran was not eager to fight, because they would rather use proxies than fulfil the all out battle that would be more beneficial in the long run to both Iran and China.

China should not forget that Islamic world in its current form is not one of us. Only a few years ago, they killed more than 200 Chinese and were bragging, only the rapid defeat of xinjiang terrorists shut them up for good.

Muslim world are at most Harkonnens that can be used to overwhelm Israel by numbers, while PLA/Russians disguised as them carry out the key killing blows, against air defenses, officials, US navy ships etc.

Not only does the present situation offer a chance for China to get rid of the longstanding Zionist thorn in the middle east and fulfil the promise made by Mao to the Palestinian people, but the "Muslim" world, exhausted by throwing their people to take down Israel, will end up more reliant than ever on China and Russia.
The Muslim world is allied with China due to the mutual opposition to US led world order. China should supply and arm them to cause turbulence to US's power projection.
 

gelgoog

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Why do you think that Iran is particularly bothered that this Hamas leader was killed?
Hamas actively sabotaged the Syrian government, an Iranian ally, by acting on the US's side during the civil war there.
It is just an embarrassment for Iran because the assassination happened in their country but that is about it.
 
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Sardaukar20

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Iran deescalated by bombing Israel last time after Israel bombed an Iranian embassy.

Then Israel did nothing, until now. Which we must assume is their retaliation for the past bombing. So Iran will have to escalate again.

The reason they waited so long is that they need to be 110% sure US will help them attack Iran. But this should be a severe miscalculation. If US could focus all of their forces on Iran, they would be able help Israel win. However, US cannot do anywhere near that, and Iran will also recieve foreign support.
Iran may want to get serious with Israel, but it also faces significant security dilemmas from its so-called "Muslim friends". Turkey and Azerbaijan threatens Iran's North Western borders and the northern trade routes. Not too long ago, Azerbaijan and Iran nearly came to blows over disputes with the trade routes passing through Azeri territories. To its East, there are the terrorist infested hinterlands that Iran has continuously failed to coordinate with Pakistan and Afghanistan to deal with. Why? Only the three of them knows. Across the Persian Gulf, are the Gulf states reliable when war comes to Iran? Qatar still hosts the largest US airbase in the Middile East: the Al Udeid Air Base. When the US and Israel wants to wage war on Iran, is Qatar gonna deny them from launching air raids from its soil? Or is Qatar gonna bends over backwards to the US and Israel like the good dog it always is? And if Iran strikes the Al Udied Air Base, who is Qatar really gonna side with?

On the economic front, Iran is sending mixed messages to China. It signed a BRI deal with China but has not proposed transport corridor projects for China to invest in yet. China's investments in Iran is mainly focused on O&G development. Iran is also pushing ahead with India's project to build the North-South Transport Corridor to transport shipments from India through Iran to Azerbajan, and finally to Russia. How much trade can India ship through Iran compared to China? If Iran cannot seriously deepen its economic ties with China, how is it gonna move its economy forwards and become a more formidable military power?
 
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