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_killuminati_

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Always look at things from Arab perspective as in this part of world hardly anything can succeed if so many countries involved without Arab support. there is no shortage of money to develop it and i would think Arabs will prefer Afghan trade goes through Iran. transport networks on both sides of Caspian going to develop.
This has nothing to do with Arabs. They are not involved in any project in this development.
 

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This has nothing to do with Arabs. They are not involved in any project in this development.
lol. from where you knowledge comes from?. it has everything to do with Gulf Arabs. the payment system for the port development is created in UAE. i guess you havent read my earlier link. and it is Arab trade that will increase on Iran infrastructure.
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Do any US politicians not realize this song is a rebuke of the American political establishment?

I guess it is pretty much a microcosm of US political engagement

"It's got a catchy chrorus, that's all I need to know"

They also like to play "Born in the USA" at right-wing political conventions, not noticing at all that the song is harshly critical of US overseas military interventions and how US government and society treated its veterans.


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They also like to play "Born in the USA" at right-wing political conventions, not noticing at all that the song is harshly critical of US overseas military interventions and how US government and society treated its veterans.


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Some Americans that listen to music are clearly dumb and don't bother exploring the lyrics or the band much. MAGA/Pro-usa/White Power/Pro-Police people still thought in 2020 that Rage Against the Machine was speaking for them LOL.

The band members literally wear the old mao communist era stars and the "machine" that the band is raging against are the people above.
 

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Kremlin reveals details of Putin’s China trip​

Russian President Vladimir Putin’s first trip abroad following his inauguration will feature stops in Beijing and Harbin, along with discussions of bilateral relations with his Chinese counterpart Xi Jinping, Putin’s aide Yury Ushakov has said.

Moscow announced on Monday that Putin would visit China on May 16-17 at Xi’s invitation. The two leaders will mark the 75th anniversary of diplomatic relations between Moscow and Beijing.

“There will be an in-depth exchange of views on issues of interaction in various international organizations and structures, including the UN, where Russia and China speak in solidarity on almost all topics on the UN agenda,” Ushakov said.

“It is very important under the current circumstances that our partnership demonstrates it is resistant to any outside meddling,” the Kremlin aide noted.

Very deliberately, the Russian leader will arrive in Beijing exactly ten days after his inauguration, just as Xi did when he visited Moscow in March 2023.

The fact that this is Putin’s first foreign trip after last week’s inauguration is a clear message about the importance of the Russian-Chinese relationship, as well as the “personal chemistry that has developed between the two leaders,” according to Ushakov.

Russia appreciates China’s balanced position on the Ukraine crisis, Ushakov said, including Beijing’s rejection of a conference hosted by Switzerland meant to discuss Kiev’s peace proposals – but without Moscow’s participation.

Other items on the agenda include linking the Eurasian Union integration processes with China’s Belt and Road initiative, cooperation within the BRICS framework, the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East, and matters in central and northeast Asia.

Putin will be accompanied by former Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu and his designated successor Andrey Belousov, who are expected to take part in “informal” talks with the Chinese leader and his aides.

Among the more notable members of the high-ranking delegation headed for China were Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Bank of Russia head Elvira Nabiullina.

About a dozen bilateral documents are expected to be signed during the visit, along with many commercial deals and regional agreements. The Russian president is also expected to formally invite his Chinese host to the next BRICS summit, scheduled to take place in Kazan in October.

The Russians are bringing in a huge delegation to China for discussions.

Government Delegation
President - Vladimir Putin
Secretary of the Security Council - Sergey Shoigu
Minister of Foreign Affairs - Sergey Lavrov
Minister of Defense - Andrey Belousov
First Deputy Prime Minister - Denis Manturov
Deputy Prime Ministers - Tatyana Golikova, Alexander Novak, Yury Trutnev, Dmitry Chernyshenko, Vitaly Savelyev
Deputy Heads of the Presidential - Maksim Oreshkin, Dmitry Peskov
Russian Central Bank Governor - Elvira Nabiullina
Minister of Natural Resources and Environment - Alexander Kozlov
Minister of Finance - Anton Siluanov
Minister of Economic Development - Maksim Reshetnikov
Head of Federal Financial Monitoring Service - Yury Chikhanchin
Head of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation - Dmitry Shugayev
Head of Russian Railways - Oleg Belozerov
Head of Rosatom - Alexey Likhachev
Head of Roscosmos - Yury Borisov
Business Delegation
Co-chair of the Russian-Chinese Committee of Friendship - Boris Titov
Head of the Russian-Chinese Business Council and Owner of Volga Group - Gennady Timchenko
CEO of Sber - Herman Graf
Board Chairman of Sber - Oleg Deripaska
CEO of Russian Direct Investment Fund - Kirill Dmitriev
CEO of VTB - Andrey Kostin
Board Chairman of Rusano - Sergey Kulikov
Board Chairman of Novatek - Leonid Mikhelson
Head of Business Russia - Alexey Repik
Chairman of Rosneft - Igor Sechin
President of the Russian Union of Industrialists - Alexander Shokhin
Chairman of VEB.RF - Igor Shuvalov
 

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Han Patriot

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I don't think you understood the idea of existing ports at Bandar Abbas, with an existing rail connection.

The new rail to Chabahar is being completed by Iran alone after it evicted India, the original builder, after it failed to deliver due to US sanctions.


Karachi cannot simply expand without issue. It did undergo several smaller expansions while Gwadar Port was being built, but it is too congested with it's own and other maritime traffic. That is why they've been moving the expansions out of the city. Besides Gwadar, the closer ports at Ormara and Pasni were also considered for major expansions. Current draught at KP is only 13.5m with an expansion planned to increase it to 16.5m, while Gwadar has an existing natural draught of 18m.

SRC at Bandar Abbas already has an existing 17m draught while Chabahar Port is only 9.3m currently with a yet to be built 16m expansion. There's really no reason for Iran to build a new port other than to develop it's eastern region.
Karachi Port is too near India, that's why Gwadar was developed as a safer base. Besides, KP is too congested.
 
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